Ichigo uses Blut Vene!! Ichigo vs Juha Bach – Bleach 513

Bleach 513 blows me away with the awesomeness it has. We first see Byakuya’s last moments as he walks to find something. Ichigo’s rampage against Juha Bach continues as Ichigo goes on an all out anger driven fight against Juha. We also find out that Ichigo has learnt the ability to use Blut Vene!

Bleach 513 starts out as Byakuya walks around Soul Society noticing that it’s all silent, there is no answer from Ichigo or anyone else there to help. Byakuya isn’t scared to know that this could be the end for him, he’s satisfied knowing that Ichigo will take care of things. He leaves everything to Ichigo as he’s going to be the savior of Soul Society. We see Byakuya drop his sword, it cracks into a few pieces, this could be the end of Byakuya.

Ichigo faces Juha Bach, he’s in front of him, he’s ready to fight him no matter what. Haschwald walks forward when Juha Bach stops him, he may have wanted to fight him. Juha Bach says that he doesn’t how he broke out of Kirge’s Jail but does Ichigo really plan to fight him with that torn body.

Ichigo asks if he’s the Enemy’s leader. Juha Bach laughs and says that he is and the same time he’s not. Ichigo tells him not to kid him. Juha Bach smiles causing Ichigo to shouts if he’s the one who made such a mess of Soul Society. Juha Bach is ready, he says that he is responsible for nearly destroying everything.

Ichigo quickly releases a lot of reiatsu as he powers up. Juha Bach tells Haschwald that after all they did, there is no other choice except to fight Ichigo. Juha Bach says that he wants to destroy him! Ichigo jumps towards Juha Bach, at this point we hear the famous words in which he haven’t heard for quite a few chapter! Ichigo releases his Getsuga Tenshou!

This causes a large explosion, Ichigo moves out from the point when a large hand appears in front of him. The hand holds into Ichigo’s hands and smashes Ichigo on the ground, Ichigo tries to grab Juha Bach’s face but doesn’t succeed as it’s moved away by Juha Bach’s hand.

At this point, Ichigo notices that Juha Bach is holding a large sword, Juha Bach thrusts it towards Ichigo’s neck, it seems like there is nothing left but Ichigo’s decapitated head. Ichigo’s eyes seem as though there is nothing left for him. Haschwald is shocked at how quick he was killed, Juha is not satisfied by the fight.

Ichigo still breaths, Juha Bach says to take him to their castle, they’ll resuscitate him and make him join their troops. Haschwald agrees to the orders and will do as instructed. Juha Bach looks away for a second, he then realizes that Ichigo is not yet down! He realizes that the sword which he used hasn’t even broke Ichigo’s skin! He realizes that Ichigo is using the famous Blut Vene! A Quincy Technique! At this point, Ichigo releases all the reiatsu he can, he then goes to uses the Getsuga Tenshou close range towards Juha. Bleach 513 ends here.

What an epic chapter! Ichigo’s finally got somewhere, and the fact that Ichigo can use Blut Vene means that he could also use Blut Arterie, we seriously need to know what had happened in Kirge’s Jail or if somehow the Kirge Killer helped Ichigo! Who and what could have happened in Hueco Mundo! Can’t wait for next week’s Bleach 514 as it’s most likely to feature a grand range of fights!

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  1. 101nemesis

    Correction. When Byakuya says “no answer” he is referring to how Ichigo didn’t say yes or no when he requested “Please protect Soul Society”. He states its alright cause that is how Ichigo is.

    On another note. Damn. Blut? Could this actually mean that masaki was a quincy? Maybe she could have been Ryuken’s relative or sister. Might also explain why Ryuken and Isshin are very close.

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    1. SpaZI

      My thoughts exactly….. or better yet Ichigo’s mother could be a carrier of two bloodlines ie; Shinigami & quincy (im guessin this might be reffered to as True Blood or sumthin…),… hence her ascension to Division 0……
      Also i think no one broke ichigo out of that prison & that ichigo used the Blut Vene subconsciously…… partly due to the fact that hes super pissed / enraged & cauz he wants to avenge his comrade’s…….

      Awesome chapter btw!!! Artwork has definitively been turned up a notch…… cant wait for next chapter…. Kubo really knows how to prolong a story…. 😀

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      1. 101nemesis

        True Blood.
        Maybe it means to be the perfect being. Human+Quincy+shinigami+hollow. Ichigo now apparently has all 4 bloodlines in him. He is a human who has hollow powers and is from a quincy + shinigami bloodline. In other words, he is a person who has no race distinction. The pure being.

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        1. Tree

          Don’t forget fullbring as well. So that makes five: Human, shinigami, fullbring, hollow, quincy. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but lets face it, kurosaki ichigo’s bloodline is about the only complicated thing about him. The only thing that keeps him alive is an unorginal author who is so lazy he has to plagiarize himself. Seriously, the entire manga has been the same story repeated about fifteen times: soul society is in danger-> the entirety of soul society cannot stop it-> kurosaki ichigo must fight to the death-> kurosaki ichigo awakens a new power-> hooray he wins. Its like hes link from zelda oin god mode. boring. kubo tite should be ashamed of himself. and so should anyone who likes bleach.

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      2. Isamu715

        “…hence her ascention to Division 0…”? Where did you get that from? The only currently known member of the Royal Guard/Squad 0 is Kirio Hikifune. As for Blut Vene, iIt seems unlikely for Ichigo to use an ability like this subconsciously, the theory about Kirge Opie killer being a Quincy who helped Ichigo is more plausible. I see your point with Masaki being a Quincy, we don’t really know a lot about her. Well, Kubo is going to explain everything unexplained in this arc, so we should be able to learn more about her past.

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        1. 101nemesis

          Agreed.
          Evidently kubo stated that Ichigo and Isshin don’t fully believe Masaki was killed by the Grand Fisher. I think he meant there was another reason behind it. Could probably that she was a quincy or had a quincy ancestral background. Given how hollows hate Quincies for their mass murdering of hollows, I’d say that’s a reason why Masaki was attacked and targeted.
          And about the zero squad. The only confirmed member is Hikifune, Hiyori’s former captain before Urahara.
          I am hoping byakuya’s grand father is also a part of the zero squad. If he is, he could be pissed.

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      3. Sunite

        Completely agree Kubo is bringing it 😀 and I have to disagree with the Blut Vene subconsciously bit… when Ichigo arrives he’s pissed and doesn’t give a shit about anything… this could mean that he learnt something new, it’s like during Aizen’s fight, Ichigo was calm and very conscious of what he was doing.. Ichigo could have realized some important information which Urahara and mystery dude might have told him, also teach him how to use Blut Systems…? Maybe???

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        1. Oasis

          yeah i think story wise for sure, who ever save urahara and help ichigo escape, also told him about how to use blut.

          wishfully thinking right now..i think that would
          pretty much state he has quincy blood in him.

          so yeah, his mother could have been a quincy or came from a quincy family..the whole way juha knows about ichigo , makes me think.. this me just being a fan =D but..i think masaki is from the royal line of quincy just like juha

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          1. Sunite

            So it wasn’t Urahara or the Kirge Killer, but in fact Kirge’s Jail awakened Ichigo’s powers…!
            Wow never thought about there being a Quincy Royal Line, very possible, she could have escaped and went to the real world after meeting her lover, maybe Isshin??

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    2. deucee9s2wylde

      Agreed. Byakuya was clearly referring to Ichigo not giving him an answer. He didn’t have to. Byakuya knows that Ichigo’s already started taking care of his request. He also knows that he didn’t have to ask, but out of respect for Ichigo he wanted to voice his trust in Ichigo and it illustrates to us, the readers, how desperate their situation has become.

      On your separate note: Damn is right. I had a feeling his mother, being a human, was probably gonna turn out to be a Quincy. And true, that probably is Isshin and Ryuken’s connection and why they’re so close. And don’t forget, Ichigo’s had fullbringer powers as well. Whether remnants of those powers remain within him or not is unclear, but I think that’s why his zanpakuto looks different. It could be incorporating his fullbringer powers into its form. That would make Ichigo a union of Quincy(?), Shinigami, hollow and fullbringer powers. My questions now are, if his mother was a Quincy, did she have any blood ties to Juha Bach? And why doesn’t Juha seem to know about it?

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      1. SpaZI

        At this time Juha Bach was surprised to encounter Blut Vene,…. IMO in the next chapter as the fight continues Juha Bach will confront Ichigo as to who was his mother…… Its clear Ichigo is still part mystery to the Stern Ritters,… this might be the time we get to see Ichigo’s family background, her mothers possible linege ( either from the royal family or the quincy’s ), And Juha Bach’s possible background,…..

        I dont know if you guys have sensed this but im guessin Juha Bach might be the rebellious crown prince of soul society who might have been ousted due to his practice’s…… ie; the Quincy Doctirine….. For all we know the war fought a 1000 years ago might have been the crown prince pushing for change in the Shinigami Doctrine to be replaced by the Quincy Doctrine…… This would have lead to his ouster from Soul Society after defeat at the hands of the Gotei 13……. I say this because Juha Bach is quite knowledgeable about Soul Society, and its secret vaults ( eg; Aizen’s prison under Div 1), a fact which cannot be simply extracted by an enemy spy even….. especially if you have an over powered Genryusai residing there……..

        Isshin’s background will wil also play a major part in this story arc……..

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      2. Sunite

        I presume that the Fullbring powers still are within Ichigo, as shown within his new Bankai and Shikai forms, as well as his new Shinigami Bankai look…
        Ichigo’s mother could have been a princess (Due to the Quincy’s having a Kingdom) who ran away with a Shinigami for love, she lived in the human world and created Ichigo, she was killed when found by a Quincy, but it was planted and blamed on the Grand Fisher…
        Juha could have been a leader in the Quincy army who took over when the King died… It’s just a rough idea which I have in my head, low chance of it coming true..

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    3. Sunite

      Thanks for the correction 😀 and yeah it could mean this, possibly Isshin had the Shinigami powers, Aizen gave Ichigo Hollow powers, Masaki gave Ichigo human and quincy nature to his powers…

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  2. dreager1

    Pretty great chapter! I think Ichigo went down wayyyyy too easily, but now he should pwn. With Quincy powers at his disposal he shouldn’t be underestimated! These villains are tough, but this is definitely Ichigo’s show now. I’m still waiting for him to put on the mask and pwn, but technically I don’t think he should even have too. Next week should be epic! (And of course Bleach saved Shounen Jump single handedly once again)

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      1. dreager1

        You know…I’m waiting for him to totally obliterate this guy. Pwn = Own = Destroy. I think this guy doesn’t stand a chance against the Substitute Soul Reaper! Ichigo’s just far too powerful

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        1. deucee9s2wylde

          I thought it was a typo at first, but then I saw you use it twice. So, I had to ask. Thanks.

          About Ichigo being too powerful, I’m not so sure. The guy just took a direct hit from Ichigo’s getsuga tenshou and there’s not even a scratch on him. Plus he took Ichigo down to the ground pretty easily. We haven’t even seen him pull out Genryusai’s bankai yet. That could be pretty devastating to our main guy. I think he’s gonna need help here. It might even be Captain Unohana. We still haven’t seen her bankai release yet. The Vizards are still out there too. Juha is teaming up with Haschwald, so it’s only fair.

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          1. dreager1

            Sure, no prob 🙂 I’m not even sure where I got that word from, but now I love to use it a lot. One of my favorite words alongside epic and cool.

            Well, Ichigo was beaten pretty easily which was extremely disappointing. I was expecting him to do better, but with Quincy abilities plus possible hollow powers, then he may be ready to take a win.

            It would be good to see Unohana fight because they’ve been hyping her up for years. We need the payoff. I think I’d rather Uryu or Grimmjow saving Ichigo though. I’m still waiting for Grimmjow to make his move

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            1. nick dunn

              Well me too. My theary is is that Ichigo has Quincy powers because his mother Masaki, was a Quincy. Thats how she saw Grand Fisher coming at Ichigo. Because she and Isshin fell in love, but he being a Shinigami Gotei 13 Captain and her being a Quincy Stern Ritter. Yamamoto and Juha didn’t agree with it and called them tratoirs and took away there powers. I do know Aizen knows and eventually Ichigo will go and ask him about his past casue Isshin, Kisuke and Yoruichi wont tell him. Thats the only explication as to why Ichigo would have Quincy powers

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                1. Oasis

                  same here..maybe there a copy of her., .or when she die..her soul carry on..into the shinigami world..living as a new soul ..so therefor she could be in juha group or some how working for the soul king. this is just being fan =D but who knows… and if she is alive, is she still masaki…or something different..

                  i keep thing she is from the royal line..so.. i have feeling ichigo going to meet there another family..be introduce to some who looks like masaki but might be the sister or something… who knows =D but yeah i agree you..she may not be really dead..

                  as for the part for there power being taken away..i dunno if that would have happen to isshin..since the 189 what ever number of board members..were pretty much corrupted..and whole idea of a captain/shinigami who want to quit..can only stay in service . or be kill , or be lock up for ever or join zero team.

                  so i think Isshin just kept his power hidden. and misaki did the same too. to be in hiding..since they were also killing quincy left and right.

                  also Isshin must have been in hiding way before what happen with Urahara,=D any how yeah maybe she is alive or someone related to her is..so well just wait and see

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                2. Oasis

                  replying to you again =D it just hit me… =D this all fan wishful thinking but you might have something.. i was saying before maybe she was reborn or a clone..but yeah..maybe your on to something.. maybe she never really die..the whole death was a set up. could be something happen..who knows

                  so she is now working for someone or some kind of group.. all i can think of is Zero team or Juha group ? could be zero team..maybe a deal to save ichigo and rest of the family. since isshin is in hidding.

                  that chapter were Urahara looks shock about who save them, when ichigo was trap in the box.. might be ^_- masaki , haha. who knows =D

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                1. deucee9s2wylde

                  There is no mention that he ever used the technique only that he was aware of it. Even if he did, Urahara probably used the same method on him as he did for Ichigo to restore his Shinigami powers, but with a lot less reiatsu, probably just from close, trusted friends. Although Isshin doesn’t do much fighting, the guy’s got mad skills.

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    1. Sunite

      hmm Ichigo seems to be way overpowered lol, I don’t know why but he’s always beaten down but always seems to develop new powers, it’s as though he’s like the Avatar and can use Hollow, Shinigami, Human and Quincy…

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  3. asdhjk

    when juha back said” i am at the same time i am not” when he answered ichigos question, i thought to myself that maybe theres someone stronger than juha bach himself

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    1. Isamu715

      As the question Ichigi asked was “Are you the ENEMY’s leader?” I would rather say it has more to do with the fact that Juha Bach wants Ichigo to join him.

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      1. deucee9s2wylde

        Instead of who he wants Ichigo to be (an ally), I think this actually refers to who Ichigo is. He’s a human first a foremost. Juha’s enemy is the Gotei 13. Ichigo is just a Substitute Shinigami. Although the Stern Ritter are attacking the Shinigami, they don’t want to target Ichigo because he’s human…. IMO.

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  4. SpaZI

    Sorry…. my mistake…. for some time now i had mistaken Ichigo’s mom for the person who was promoted to the Zero Div….. But its still plausible….. she could be a Division 0 member for all we know…… & grand fisher wasnt even a hollow worth fightin….. i suppose even a 2nd lieutenant from any division could take down that comical hollow in their shikai form….. im guessin Ichigo’s mother wasnt killed by the grand fisher especially if she was a quincy… Her death / Disappearance could have another reason….. ie; Div 0 or sumthin else……. 🙂

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    1. deucee9s2wylde

      The power of the Quincies throws off the balance of souls between the world of the living and the soul society. So, having a Quincy in Division 0 wouldn’t make sense. If she is alive, then Isshin is probably hiding her from the Gotei 13. Actually, I think she died. Grand Fisher isn’t all that strong, but he was tricky and that could’ve caught her off guard, especially if little Ichigo was with her.

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        1. deucee9s2wylde

          I don’t know, they might actually get up to a full 15 mins. The animators have their own ways of dragging out scenes: stare downs, slow motion panoramic scenery shot, timely power-ups, explosive attacks that take forever to clear up, etc. The anime can drag scenes out just as much as the manga. I just hate that we have to wait a whole week for the continuation.

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  5. geo8

    if ichigo has quincy powers too then this sucks…hey kubo what about u give ichigo some bounto powers too..kubo is just all for ichigo thats why bleach is where it is now..another bad chapter no story only ichigo getting mad and he didnt even put his mask on and he got owned as expected from juha..i thought after the epic chapter with the death of yamamoto things would be better but nope its getting worse.clasic kubo style..

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    1. Sunite

      You could say that now but after we get an explanation of what happened before and how Ichigo actually obtained such power, if it was just out of nowhere of somehow the Mystery person gave some to Ichigo then we would know if Ichigo actually had Quincy descendants or not.. Juha is much more experienced and much more powerful then Ichigo… it will fluctuate to what you think but ultimate you’ll love to see what happens next 😛

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        1. Sunite

          Lol, thats true, somehow Kubo is displaying the chapters in a way that is going to mind fuck us because the final battle between Ichigo and Juha is right in front of us, but the fact that Juha has gone back to Vandenreich means that it will carry on, plus the Division 0 is going to appear!! Can’t wait for the most powerful team to finally display themselves..

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  6. Ne3X7

    Well, this week’s chapter made me think Bleach’s close to it’s end. I definitely liked it, but it was too short, and too ordinary, as it was already mentioned.

    Blut Vene is super cool, but it doesn’t mean Ichigo is quincy now. I don’t know what it means. Perhaps, we’ll get some Quichigo, just like Hichigo, but I doubt this will happen, bcoz nothing at all was mentioned in spoilers.

    I realllly doubt Masaki was a quincy, this would be confusing, meaning Ichigo is a tipical hero of an anime/manga, I mean, he’ll be capable of everything. He was not for 11 years.

    Well, if Ichigo now has quincy powers, I can see only two ways for Bleach to end – Ichigo dies, or Ichigo becomes the Soul King. It’s now “a thing” (citing Aizen), perhaps capable to control the five soul beings. Now there is Ichigo. So will he replace SK? Or will he fight it?

    What I liked, were the two phrases by Juha Bach. First, what the fuck does “I am, and I am not [the leader of Quincy]”?! Who is he? Or was he just kidding? My friend suggested he’s just avenging, but the real evil hasn’t shown up yet. Second, what does it mean to resurrect Ichigo and make him join the Vandenreich army? Is there something special about it? I hope you remember, I suggested that they need to kill a person to control him. There you Sunite sain about the hino-quincy. But now, is it possible?

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    1. Sunite

      Lol I like the name QuicIchigo 🙂 If Ichigo is not like a descendant of a Quincy bloodline then Ichigo would have just been thought how to use the basics of Blut Vene… just temporary use of it… The Grandfisher had a tendency of killed woman who had high spiritual pressure, he like to kill them and suck the life out of them, so maybe Masaki was a Quincy?
      Ichigo becoming a Soul King is personally a terrible Idea, he’s not a character like Yamamoto where he actually thinks and does stuff like him, Ichigo is a do-er like Zaraki, he goes to fight no matter what..
      Juha Bach could be the main bad guy, but then it’s been 1000 years, so another could have been developed, or Juha Bach was referring to the Shinigami and Quincy perspective, to Quincy he’s a King, to Shinigami a enemy.
      I presume that Juha Bach thought that he had decapitated Ichigo, he wanted Ichigo to join his army because he may be a War Potential, sorry I don’t actually remembers but I think i’v read it somewhere and yeah I think it it could be possible, this could have happened to Jidanbou?

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      1. Ne3X7

        Lol, now I think it’s really possible. Hichigo with Quincy abilities would look great. Yeah, that’s just what I think, someone taught Ichigo to use Blut in HM. I don’t really think he’s gonna become a Quincy, like he didn’t fully become a hollow. But he did become a fullbringer, so everything’s possible. About Masaki, it’s just a suggestion, because it’d be IMHO boring for her to be a Quincy. Well, Ichigo being a SK sound reasonable, maybe like Naruto being a hokage (how do they call it?). Abou JB I still have no other idea to explain all this stuff.

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        1. Sunite

          Hmm like Grand Fisher explained, Ichigo is the true blood, could explain his amazing skills with Hollows, Shinigami, Human and now Quincy… About Masaki being a Quincy, I relate to Tobi being Obito, it’s really obvious that she’s somehow a Quincy but until it’s explained we’ll never confirm it..

          Hmm Ichigo could be a Soul King, but wouldn’t have Aizen or Juha Bach realized this and since Aizen’s ultimate plan was to kill the Soul King( I think) so why wouldn’t they just kill Ichigo?

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    2. 101nemesis

      Well Bleach won’t end in another 2-5 years for sure. This arc will probably be as long or even longer than Arrancar arc.

      And about Juha saying “I am and I am not”. I’m pretty sure he was just messing with ichigo to get him to attack. Cause Juha smiles when Ichigo says “Stop kidding me”. He is basically just trying to confuse Ichigo and get him to attack without thinking twice. Something like what Aizen used to do. Confuse and mind fuck the opponent till which the opponent just wants to kill him.

      I would say Masaki is a quincy or from a quincy ancestral background. Isshin and Ryuuken are very close friends and this might help in explaining alot. Probably Ryuuken helped Isshin and Masaki get together or they were a trio before the SS annihilated the quincys 200 years ago. There are so many possibilites. That is what’s so good about this arc. The story can go anywhere.

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      1. Ne3X7

        How do you know? Half the spoilers are already revealed and hero vs. evil fight has already begun 🙂

        Yeah, but after a trick he did on Yamamoto is sounds quite strande, doesn’t it? JB smiled all the chapter long, except when he noticed Blut Vene, it looked like he’s a bit out of mind 😀 and I can’t say anything new about Masaki, possibly she is, but right as you say, the story can go anywhere

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      2. Sunite

        Yeah I also think it’ll go for another few years, personally I think that Juha was trying to mess with Ichigo, but I think it had a little truth in what he said, it could relate back to the fact that Ichigo could be half Quincy, thus not a enemy, and half Shinigami, an enemy…

        What if Masaki was Juha Bach’s wife, she tried to escape but the Grand Fisher could have been sent by Juha, Grand Fisher did mention that Ichigo was true blood so maybe something happened here…

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    1. Sunite

      How? Ginjo mentioned that his Bankai was enhanced by his Hollow Powers, and it still wasn’t enough for Ichigo, plus his current Bankai and Shikai have some remnants of Ichigo’s fullbring so it’s possible that Ichigo’s Fullbring was never fully taken, so maybe Hollow Ichigo is somehow sucking Ichigo’s reiatsu very slowly that he cannot notice…

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  7. Superpunt

    Also i have to say that y are you peps jumping the wagon saying ichigos mom is a quicy it could just be aizens shika /bankai creating an illusion

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    1. Sunite

      Creating an illusion for Juha? or Ichigo? What Juha’s saying could all be true, even if he’s not fully spilling the beans, there could still be something there to think about..

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