Bleach 620 see’s a possible conclusion between the sides which Ishida and Ichigo belong too, which are complete opposites, as Ishida shoots down Ichigo as well as Orihime and others to the ground. Yhwach is seen covered with black eyes similar to that of Mimihagi as he’s just ripped it out from the Soul King, then begins his attack as it seems that he’s shooting down a blast towards Soul Society.
Bleach 620 begins as the Soul King’s palace begins to fall apart just by the destruction set by the Quincy’s. Ishida steps up, Ichigo Chad and Orihime all notice his action. He tells them that if they move, he’ll shoot. Ichigo steps up when Ishida quickly shoots, Ichigo obviously defends himself. Ichigo tells him not to mess with him.
Ichigo mentions if he knows why they’re all there, Ishida mentions that he does and its to stop Yhwach, to which Ishida tells him that he won’t let him. Ichigo tells him that he doesn’t understand, if he doesn’t stop him, everything will disappear. Ishida already knows this and is still there. Ichigo shouts at him why he’s still over there doing nothing.
Ichigo is told that it is because he is a Quincy! The others S-Class Stern Ritter’s appear.Gerard mentions that he thought a massive army would appear, but it doesn’t seem to have appeared like this. Gerard goes to unsheathe his sword when Ishida quickly tells him that he doesn’t need his help and draws a few arrows collapsing the floor Ichigo and others stand on.
Lille Barro goes to shoot Ichigo down as he falls, but Ishida steps in knowing that any more attacks would kill him, thus takes it upon himself to try and kill Ichigo! It also seems like Ishida may have saved Ichigo. Ishida tells Lille that he knows what he’s going to say, that this fall would mean their door, and to kill them like he did is a way to protect Yhwach.
Gerard laughs and tells him that he acknowledges him, Ishida smiles. Yhwach carries on ripping Mimihagi from the Soul King. Mimihagi tries to defend itself and try to defeat Yhwach but he’s too strong as his presence is diminished. It falls to the ground as it tells Yhwach that he may be able to see the future, but couldn’t see the difference in their strength.
Yhwach tells Mimihagi that he’s now far inferior compared to him, Yhwach holds it and goes on to absorb all the power belonging to the right hand of the Soul King! Once this happens, every world begins to shake and tremors once again begin. Yhwach mentions that he will be taking everything belonging to the Soul King! He points down as a dark strand of magic appears, he mentions that he’s going to absorb the Soul King, until he’s done, don’t let anything get in his way he mentions! Bleach 620 ends here.
A fantastic chapter, Ichigo seems to be down for the count, even with his power he can’t seem to do anything as he’s already been gotten rid off. Ishida is the worlds only hope, he is the only one able to stop the process of this absorbing, if Ishida can somehow absorb and grow stronger, it would give them a fighting chance, nevertheless, I can’t wait for next week’s Bleach 621!
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Nice recap
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New power of yhwach absorbing powers of both shinigami and quincy wouldn’t be surprised if he could also do the same to holglows
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Yhwach did say his Schrift has the power to steal all power. He used Sankt Altar to steal Ichibei’s power, but it didn’t work. So now we finally see what happens when it works. Is it me or is Pernida the only Elite Guard not in her Vollständig?
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Ywach stole the Ichibeis power, but just because ichibei literally owns Ywach it didnt work. on the other hand im sure ishida will betray ywach, so this means it wont happen, thats what Kubo is 😀
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It’s pretty clear Uryu will betray Yhwach. Instead of letting the Elite Guard kill them, Uryu caused them to fall. He is being very nice for now.
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I dont understand why the first 5 pages need to be wasted on recapping. The Captains have to show up and start all the battles next week.
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Well I honestly don’t see the reason for all the Captains to come up. They will just get killed, if the Elite Guard defeated the Royal Guard, I highly doubt some Captains cab beat them. I only believe Shunsui, Aizen, Zaraki, Shinji, and Kisuke can go. Jushiro can to, but I don’t know what his condition is now that Mimihagi is absorbed by Yhwach. Everyone else shouldn’t go up their. I still think the remaining average Captain level opponents should stay, and maybe the remaining Sternritter will fight them.
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Well the Zero squad were over hyped. Aizen & Shunsui I feel are just taking their time loll. Zaraki, Kisuke, Shinji, Byakuya & Mayuri (Mayrui vs Askin) are all going up. I think the Captains are going to fight like the Elite Guards, they won’t do 1-on-1 match ups. Everythings going to be all over the place and helping each other out. Ichigo & friends are just going to fly back up, Ishida is clearly not on Yhwach’s side.
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See now I do see that happening. The stronger Captains sure. But everyone else? Including Byakuya? Nope. I don’t see them all fighting the Elite Guard. That’s gonna be just like when the Captains and Visord teamed up against the top three Espada. I don’t believe Kubo will do that again.
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Even if Kubo doesn’t do it, there strong and each have particular abilities and smarts that’ll make the battles.
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Ya I guess. That just seems like a repeat. But if he does do that, I see the Elite
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Guard beating the Captains and Visord, than seeing the Royal Guard recovered and ready to fight again
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Ichigo vs Ishida. Shunsui vs Haschwalth. Urahara vs Compalsory. Mayuri vs Death Dealing. Zaraki vs Miracle. Shinji or Byakuya vs X Axis. Not sure about last one. Jushiro dead. Good feeling once Mimihagi is absorbed its going to ruin/poison Yhwach. He can’t foresee what’s going to happen to himself and his abilities are going to be gone/ruined. Aizen or Ichigo will finish Yhwach, Aizen will probably just take Soul King’s place after his discussion with Shunsui. I can foresee Bleach’s future lmaoo predictions.
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Well I don’t see nay of these Captains fighting the Elite Guard by themselves. They would lose. And like I said before, I don’t believe anyone can fight Yhwach by themselves and win. Aizen included. If anything, Yhwach will kill Aizen for his arrogance. Someone as evil as Aizen cannot replace the Soul King. I doubt he even can. Yhwach doesn’t seem poisoned to me. Even if he can tell what Mimihagi will do, he seems t know what he is.
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We’ll see when the fights come I guess. Like I said before and like Kubo said, Aizen is immortal and can’t die. Aizen beats Yhwach sword for sword. Haven’t see boths Bankai or Vollstanding. For all we know, Aizen probably had good intentions for his actions and the Soul King is actually evil so you can’t say “someone as evil can’t replace” don’t know enough. When the whole absorbing is done I think its going to happen.
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Well the Soul King is evil. That’s for sure. And Aizen is evil. Sure he has his reasons, but wanting to be a god like that? Aizen is basically Satan. I see Satan as evil, and therfore Aizen is evil too. Yhwach is Jesus. He is evil too. I think Yhwach has a good reason for doing what he is doing. Sure Aizen is immortal, but you honestly think he can last? You don’t believe Yhwach can take away his Immortality? He can and probably will. Yhwach is too strong for Aizen. Way to strong. I doubt his Shikai can effect Yhwach, but his Bankai sure. But Yhwach had Vollständig, so Aizen will lose either way.
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We don’t know for sure Aizen, Soul King & Yhwach are evil or good, unknown. I don’t see your jesus & satan comparison. Yhwach is strong but not stronger than Aizen, on par if anything. If Yhwach can take Aizen’s immortality, which he can’t btw, it makes no sense for Kubo to mention it in the first place.
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Well it’s simple. Satan is an angel that wants to be god. He views himself as perfect and is pretty strong. He is very handsome and very manipulative. He leaves Heaven and takes other angles with him. He than moves to Hell and has an army of Demons to fight God and his army of Angels. He lost and he wants to be God. Aizen is handsome, manipulative, and powerful. He wants to be god, so he betrays the Soul Society and leaves with two other Captains. He moves t Hueco Mundo, and has an army of Arrancar. Aizen is Satan.
Yhwach being Jesus is pretty obvious. He is the father of the Quincy, and is basically a God With His unique powers. The Quincy are his people. The Shinigami preformed Genocide on the Quincy many times. Just like the Christians terrorizing Pagans For Centuries.
We will see who is stronger when Aizen meets Yhwach again. I go by what Kubo shows us and hypes these two. So I’ll go with Yhwach as the winner. But that’s just mem
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Ahaa, I knew what you meant. It’s just that both killed a lot so they both seemed evil I guess. I don’t know too much about the history so I can’t comment loll.
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Oh that’s okay. That’s just something I noticed about them. And I believe someone else on this blog mentioned it too. They are both evil true. But they have different reasons.
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Sorry I meant can’t tell what Mimihagi will do.
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I think Ywach will try n take over the soul king true power. But will end up with too much power then he can control.
Aizen will die a hero
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Man that’s a possibility. We don’t know the true power of Yhwach. He hasn’t even used his Vollständig yet.
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Yhwach is far stronger than aizen..he has mimihagi,the almighty and his quincy techniques and i don’t doubt he can also steal the power of hollows because the energy beam he used to break the floor open looked like a cero
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To weigh in on all this. Aizen is far stronger than Yhwach. There is no doubt on my mind. As for Yhwach being Jesus…he may want to be and he certainly thinks of himself as the messiah, but he’s just the Anti Christ at best.
As for the chapter, is was decent, but not the greatest. I don’t believe that Uryu’s arrows can fire faster than Ichigo can react. He would have been off that platform in an instant. I also think that he could easily fly, air jump, jump, or blast his way back so I don’t see why everyone’s panicking so much in the chapter. This whole ordeal was certainly embarrassing for Ichigo’s friends, but I wasn’t counting on them being all that much help anyway. In the end, the Captains are going to need to take down the Elite Squad while Ichigo messes Bach up. I’m guessing that Uryu will betray Bach and get some hits in, but then he’ll be crushed.
Seriously though, what are the Captains doing? They’re really taking their time here. Ah well, hopefully they show up next week or Ichigo can at least come back and get ready to roll.
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What do you mean he thinks of himself? He clearly is. An anti Christ isn’t someone that’s born a god. Yhwach is. He is clearly Jesus. This is what would happen if Jesus was evil. That’s what I think. And their is no way in hell Aizen is stronger than Yhwach. I personally believe, someone with the ability to steal all power, gain power, and power up a race, and with an amazing future sight, is far superior than someone with an all five sense illusions, so called mortality, and a perfect hybrid of Hollows. I hope one day in an interview, someone asks Kubo Who He views Stronger. Cause it’s clear that even though he is writing it out to be true, some still think he is weaker than Aizen.
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“If Jesus was evil” Then he wouldn’t be Jesus. In that case, he would basically be the Anti Christ. That’s the whole point of the guy! The Anti Christ will come to the Earth exhibiting many extreme abilities and that’s why many will truly believe him to be Christ. After he has tricked many souls, he will eventually be defeated by Heaven’s armies and that would be the end of that. I’m a Christian so I love reading about Revelations. I do think that we are approaching the end of days, but it still could be a few decades.
He’s way weaker than Aizen and that’s why the readers believe this. I’m sure that Kubo would say that he believes Bach to be more powerful if it helps. He is definitely Trying to make Bach look tougher, but failing epicly in my opinion. Aizen was simply too powerful and his illusion abilities are absolute.
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Wait, so The Almighty isn’t has haxed as Aizen’s Illusions? Wow, I completely disagree. Yhwach is very evil. But it’s pretty clear he wasn’t always like this. So you think a narcissistic, powerful, and manipulative Shinigami is more powerful than the father of the Quincy and a god? Yhwach is the most strongest and dangerous villain the Shinigami have ever faced. Kubo basically said Yhwach is stronger sense the Royal Guard and Soul King didn’t even bother viewing Aizen as a big threat. Plus, Yhwach killed two of the most powerful Shinigami ever, Yamamoto and Ichibei.
I have also read the revelations. But I am Pagan Wiccan so I don’t believe that. But that’s just me. I just think Yhwach has much more going for him than Aizen ever could.
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I don’t believe he is. The Almighty’s “hax” aren’t that impressive. His future sight? It has already been proven not to work for the moments where it counts. His quincy blood only affects other quincies and even then it can’t control people like Ichigo and Uryu. Beyond that, he’s just your average fighter. He’s certainly stronger than at least 80% of the cast in the series, but that’s nothing to Aizen’s complete sensory manipulation.
Also, Bach is not even a “god” no matter how many times he tries to get us to believe it. That would be like calling Kaguya from Naruto a god because she is the mother of all shinobi. Being the father of all quincy doesn’t give him that status. Also, Shinigami are stronger than Quincy by nature so it makes sense that Aizen is tougher.
Bach destroyed an incredibly weakened Yamamoto. Let’s not overlook that key fact. At full strength, Bach would have had to retreat. Bach is stronger than the Royal Guard and Soul King for sure, but most of those guys were pushovers. The Soul King couldn’t even move! The Royal Guard was only decent at best with Ichibei being the only good member.
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So you think having all your actions predicted and your powers rendered useless than someone hypnotizing you? How? Someone how has all that knowledge is crazy. How can that be weaker than being fooled by Illusions? That’s so false in my opinion. He basically proved it when he took out Ichibei, something I doubt Aizen could so with his powers.
He is a god to the Quincy, not Shinigami. His powers and status shows him to be a celestial being. He is the son of a god, so how can he not be a celestial being?
And Quincy are not weaker than Shinigami. That’s so false it makes me laugh. Is it because they are human? You sound like an Arrancar saying that. By nature? Quincy are stronger in spiritual world’s were Shinigami and Hollows live. They are the opposite of Shinigami, and they are equal to Shinigami. If what you say is true, how come the Sternritter did so much damage to the Gotei 13, when Aizen’s Espada didn’t even due half this much damage?
Yamamoto didn’t seem weak to me. He only had burns from his Bankai and Chojiro Bankai. He didn’t seem incredibly weaken lime you state. Plus, I bet he couldn’t kill Yhwach 1000 years ago. And I like all the Royal Guard. Kubo made them lose to the Elite Guard to show us they are not weak.
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All right, here’s how I see it. Bach can see the future, but how battle ready it is has yet to be proven. I don’t see him totally anticipating what an opponent will do as seen by his shock at Mimihagi. It’s not rendered useless, but he will be unable to see or feel Aizen. There’s no way he can get around that and all Aizen needs is a single blow to the neck to end it all. How can Bach possibly stop him? There’s almost literally no way to defeat Aizen which is why I disagreed with how the arc ended way back then. The only way to hit him would be to use some kind of large scale explosion technique to take out the whole area quicker than Aizen can escape it. The problem is that Aizen is quite fast so this is very inpractical. Illusions are really underrated as their potency in battle is nearly unlimited. Aizen can thoeretically just head home and with his illusion in place, nobody would ever know it. He could also pretend to be destroyed and wait a few weeks to attack. The possibilities are endless.
“He is the son of a god” Where could you have possibly gotten that from? His insane ramblings about being the Soul King’s son have no actual truth to them so far. Remember, Bach’s clearly insane so we can’t believe everything that he’s saying. He probably meant it more metaphorically than anything. Remember, he’s twins with the other guy and they weren’t born from a god.
Yes, by nature, Hollows>>>Shinigami>>>Quincy. It’s just the law of survival or strength of the fittest. There are exceptions to everything of course, but Hollows will always be the strongest. Those guys are basically weak incarnate.
Yamamoto wasn’t weakened?
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/510/6
This is when Bach actually arrives. Notice that Yamamoto is already missing an arm and he had just been having a huge fight where he even had to use Bankai. He was seriously low on energy and anyone would be after a fight. I’m thinking that you forgot about the twist and that Yamamoto had to fight a fake Bach who was equal to the real Bach in power first. That essentially proved to me that Yamamoto is stronger. They’re also all but said that he could have defeated Bach back then, but didn’t and that’s why Mayuri keeps insulting him. I recommend re reading that volume, just the one where Yamamoto is fighting. You’ll get to re read Bach’s backstory, which shows just how “normal” he is. He’s no god and while his powers are impressive, they’re not quite as good as he wants them to be. (Of course, with Mimiihagi and the Soul King inside of him, he’ll likely get a good power boost)
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Okay. You seem to forget what the Almighty can do. You do know it renders powers useless. What makes you think Aizen can even hypnotize Yhwach? And a blow to the neck? If Yhwach’s Blut Vene can stop Ichigo’s Shikai, what makes you think Aizen’s Shikai can peirce it? And how is Yhwach insane? Just because what he said? Aizen seems more crazy than him. He tired to create a Royal Guard Member. Shutara Senjumaru basically called him insane and said the Quincy are worse than him. I’ll take my chances with someone as wise as her.
True he had been weaken. But here is my proof, if Yamamoto was weaker, how could Yhwach steal his Bankai? The only way a Quincy can even steal a Bankai Is If They Are As Strong Or Stronger Than The Shinigami.
Hollows are impressive. But the fact that THEY need to become hybrids with Shinigami to even put up a fight with Shinigami and Quincy makes me think otherwise. Plus, No Arrancar is as strong as a Royal Guard Member, yet the Quincy do. And Royd was not as strong as Yhwach. His Schrift The Yourself, is were he copies an opponents appearance, memories, and personality. While his brother Lloyd, copies powers. Royd was strong, but did you see him fight Yamamoto? He couldn’t do anything to him and he kept evading his attacks.
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In theory he can render a power useless so long as he understands it, but I don’t believe that he could simply stop an illusion from working. There’s no way to say precisely how Aizen makes the illusions so it should be a loophole around Aizen’s ability. As for Aizen piercing Bach, there’s a good chance that he couldn’t. That being said, Bach can’t have Blut Vene on at all times as it would draw too much energy. That’s why I suggest that a good plan is for Aizen to maybe take a nap or go sight seeing for a few weeks. He can keep his illusions up and let Bach think that he’s dead or Aizen can look like he’s attacking him. Illusions are as real as your thoughts so if Bach thinks that he is fighting, it will really feel like he’s fighting.
I think Bach’s insane because of almost every bit of dialgogue that he’s spoken. He considers himself to be a god. I’d say that he’s as insane as Hange, Light Yagami, or even the main villain of the first arc of Sword Art Online. I just can’t think of his name at the moment….
When did Aizen try to create a royal guard member? Also, Senjumaru called Aizen insane or Bach? Either way, the two don’t have to be mutually exclusive as far as being insane goes. Aizen was certainly insane for a period after the Hogyoku transformed him.
The bankai statching ability is certainly interesting, but I don’t think it means that you are on equal strength. Ichigo’s exception seems to just be because of his quincy blood. I think the ability still works if you are weaker than the opponent like in the case of Soi Fon and Byakuya.
Right, but look at the average fighter for each one. A generic Soul Society grunt vs A generic Quincy grunt vs A generic, monster of the day Hollow vs a normal human. I’d typically take the Hollow and we did see a normal hollow nearly take out two rookie soul reapers back at the beginning of this arc. A normal quincy has his bow, but shoudn’t be that fast so I think a hollow would win due to its fierce savagery.
True, I mixed up Lloyd and Royd there. Royd was definitely outmatched against Yamamoto, but he still forced the guy to use his bankai and a lot of spirit energy, which certainly affected him during the fight with Bach. Things could have been much different otherwise since Bach would have lost a lot of health and time so he may not have been able to retreat later on when his limit was close to approaching.
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If the Soul Society has all that information about Aizen’s Shikai, I think the Wandenreich will as well. He can see the illusions for what they are. He creates them with his Reiatsu and they are slightly different than his own Reiatsu, only someone stronger than Aizen himself cab tell the different, even for a moment. Yamamoto and Unohana were able to do this. If they can, Yhwach can to. And he has been using Blut Vene this while time. His absorbing of Reishi seems almost absolute with the level of his Reiyoku. And the Sternritter were equal to the Captains they fought. Its pretty self explained. True about Hollows. They are technically stronger like you said. And wouldn’t Aizen get tired if he kept his Illusions up all the time? He would run out of Reiatsu. He did it for a month 110 years ago, but stopped sometimes and used regular Kido to spy on Shinji. Yhwach wasn’t using his full power, so ya it would have ended different. But his plan was amazing and he actually managed to kill Yamamoto, something Aizen couldn’t do. Ichibei said Aizen tired to create one of them with his new powers, Because the Oken is only in Royal Guard members. Shutara Called Him The Personification Of evil, And The Quincy are worse than even him. I think he went insane and still is when the Hogoyku changed him.
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Aizen couldn’t or wouldn’t destroy Yamamoto? He had all the time in the world to do it! Yamamoto just wasn’t even a threat to him by that point in the game. As for the illusions, the general concept is known, but I don’t think that it quite enough to completely negate the ability. I dunno, the whole thing is a little suspect until they explain the ability a little more. As for Bach using Blut Vene the whole time, how do you figure? He may just throw it out on occasion for when the fights start. I guess Aizen probably couldn’t keep it up for quite as long as I said, but a few days to a week is still manageable and that will be enough time for Bach to let his guard down at least once
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Ya I think Kubo needs to explain Aizen’s illusions and The Almighty more. Hey, if they do fight, Yhwach could find about about his power and actually explain how it all works and negate them? I mean his Blut Vene us very powerful, he could grab Aizen’s Shikai and his Wearing Blut Vene will consume Aizen? Or if his The Almighty doesn’t work, which I doubt, Yhwach can just use Saint Altar and steal his powers. Or just absorb them like he did with Mimihagi.
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Oh sorry! You didn’t say Quincy were weaker than Shinigami because they are human. My bad 🙂
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No worries! I do think that humans always have a lot of potential. The X Cution Guys weren’t that bad considering that they had to self teach themselves everything. In a way, Shinigami are humans as well, just dead ones.
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That’s true! Good Point!
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dreager1, u must really like Aizen or u must really dislike Yhwach coz i just dont understand why u dont see the obvious difference in their power levels, & i get it why most bleach fans think Aizen is the most powerful, but its mostly out of fanatism than anything else..if they ever produce the final arc anime(i hope they do) im sure most bleach fans will view Yhwach quite different.”dreager1″ i wont try to knock some sense into u anymore on whose stronger btn Bach & Aizen, we’ll just have to wait & see as this arc unfolds & u’ll have your answer…As for who is strongest btn Shinigami, Quincies & Hollows i would say first Quincies & Shinigami then Hollows, if i were to be really honest i’ll say Shinigami>Quincies>Hollows, i still think Shinigami r really strong with exception to Yhwach since he is just something else entirely…Shinigami have always been dominant & hold the fate of all worlds
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I’m sorry but this chapter was soooo damn pointless. Ichigo and his damn ignorance and senseless crying. Uryu was actually dropping HINTS..he knew they would survive because of orihime. Orihime did the same shit saving him when they both fell. Ichigo is just idk…the eliteritters were nice to see again. Yhwach and his same bullshit and rambling. Now this is where I got the most pissed off at..why in the fuck did kubo give us a panel of the shinigami panicking AGAIN?!! When they were suppose to be getting into a portal? Like wtf. Why not show the sternritters or at least Candice and Meninas along with Nana. That was just POINTLESS. I don’t know what to feel about this chapter lol. Not really all that.
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Honestly, the only parts I enjoyed was with the Elite Guard. Everything else was okay I guess. Man I really Lik3 Gerard!
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And if all of you actually look at it there is no stronger race. It doesn’t really make sense for the shinigami to be strongest. You have quincy that beats shinigami, shinigami that beats hollow, and hollow beats quincy. If you say one is stronger than the other as a whole makes no sense. Sure Yhwach and Yamamoto maybe the strongest out of their race but doesn’t mean everyone else is the more dominant one. Someone will always defeat somebody. Its like a cycle if you look at it. A big ass circle!
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That actually makes sense. In Paganism, and many other religions wot multiple gods/goddesses, believe that life is an endless circle and is equal. Ever seen Pocahontas? The song Colors of the Wind explains all Native American beliefs that life is a circle of life and endless equality same with most African religions as well. I believe everything has a soul. Whether it’s a person, animal, or plant.
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Is it me or is the smirk on Ishida’s face when The Miracle says he has gained their approval rather sinister. I think Kubo is making Yhwach massively powerful, so as to make Ishida bring him down. He won’t be powering Ichigo up again cause that will honestly bore. I think they’ll fall down to Seireitei and in a mad twist Ichigo will have to fight Aizen and the other quincy, as Ishida kicks ass above. It seems like he is trying to say sth. familiar to Ichigo but Ichigo can’t get it…..like how he keeps saying `Kurosaki’…..Just a thought. But I think this will end with Ishida being the hero.
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yamamoto is stronger than yhwach and aizen with mimihagi,hogyoku and the almighty, yamamoto only lost to both of them because they didn’t fight fair-yhwach used royd and lloyd whereas aizen used margela wonderweiss so I say yamamoto is stronger than the entire kenpachi’s and royal guard but yhwach is stronger than aizen not because of the almighty but because no one knows his plan not even the Elitte-ritters and unlike aizen who kept evolving whenever they kicked his ass yhwach already has a backup plan to every situation he faces,e.g he summoned the elite to battle the royal guard,he told ichibei he would die in three steps from where he stood,he inadvertently made ichigo slice the soul king,when mimihagi intervened he tore it from the soul king and absorbed it..so tel me how you think aizen can beat him
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if the other captains arrive they should all be ready to dance to the almighty’s which are uryu and yhwach..wtf we are forgetting tue epithet B jugram haschwalth hasn’t done anything..I still think yhwach has far much more installed for the entire bleach universe…most people hate yhwach because they feel his powers are overhyped but trust me it isn’t because yhwach feels fear,e.g whrn ichibei crushed him with the giant foot and hands he said ‘is this how I will end’ so tell me yhwach haters why do you hate the saviour of bleach and our current number one character….yes yamamoto is stronger than ichigo even in mugetsu form you knw why simple….zanka no tachi,experience,hado and bakoudo knowledge,raw and brute power and hi reiatsu is far lager than even zaraki who ichigo fears…r.I.p yamamoto genryuusai shingekuni.I mis you so much….
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Honestly I believe Yhwach is stronger than Yamamoto. But not by much. He is a god, and I believe 1000 years ago, his body was destroyed by Yamamoto’s Bankai, but he still didn’t die. Also Ichibei and Unohana are extremely powerful as well. They both rival Yamamoto in power. I think it’s like you Emmanuel and Josephia said, it’s mainly fan service that believe Aizen is absolute. Yhwach is just better.
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I agree with both of you it is fan service lmfao!!! If it wasn’t then byakuya would have been dead, toshiro would have been dead from harribel and not a zombie, hell a lot of people would have been dead. I really don’t see why kubo can’t kill any other Lt. Because that is really sad if you can only kill Kira like wtf son??!!.. I honestly think that if byakuya would have really died our story wouldn’t have happened like this. Him defeating 3 sterns and fighting 5 totoal would have never happened. Our plot would have been VERY different. It’s so much bullshit lol. I agree with you all though. Yhwach is stronger than Yamamoto in my opinion but they probably would have destroyed each other at full power. I don’t see why people think Aizen could destroy those two LMFAO! Aizen maybe a monster with his illusions and shit but I doubt he can fight Yamamoto and Yhwach one on one. His biggest weakness is if someone grabs his blade<—- that should not be that hard for these two…they would kill Aizen.
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Ya it’s true. Kubo likes to save most of his characters. I completely agree with you about Byakuya. If he stayed dead from his battle with As Nodt, I see Rukia and Renji gaining a better character development. Like Rukia fighting Ad Nodt, she would have stabbed herself, than use her Bankai. Than Renji Would Be The next 6th Division Captain. And I don’t know if Jushiro will die, but if he does, Rukia will be the next 13th Division Captain. And ya I didn’t like that Toshiro Died The Way He did. Being killed by Giselle and turned into a Zombie. I believe he should have died during his battle with Aizen and or Harribel like you said. She could have killed him whenever she wanted too. And I still believe Rangiku is alive , and she will be the next 10th Division Captain. And sense Sajin is a wolf and can no longer be a Shinigami, Love will be the next 7th Division Captain, and have Hachi as his Vice Captain. Than sense the 8th Division has no Captain or vice Captain, I see Lisa as the new 8th Division Captain, and have Hiyori as her Vice Captain. And finally Isane can be the next 4th Division Captain. And have that glasses guy as her vice Captain
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Yhwach knew he would lose to yamamoto so he used royd lloyd as bait if yamamoto was at full power even without his sword he would still beat yhwach because when aizen sealed his sword he still surprised everyone
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I don’t know. Yhwach wasn’t using his full power when he killed Yamamoto. So I’m not sure.
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Hey I just noticed that Gerard caught Pernida from falling off the palace, eve though she would be okay, and he brought her to stable ground with the other ” Schutzstaffel ” members. Apparently this chapter calls the Elite Guard Schutzstaffel. Which means Protection Squadron in German. So they do protect Yhwach. Guess I was wrong. Sense Yhwach is absorbing Soul King, he will need to be protected for a while.
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So true, Kubo likes to save his characters..& this is why sometimes it proves even harder for him to reflect on whats going on with everyone in the arc…take a look at Ryuken for example, i dont understand up to now how can someone such as Ryuken miss in this arc..”Ishiin” i expected him to be even more involved in this one considering what is at stake here…Much as already went on at the Soul palace but it seems like time is stuck for the other captains going there.. Aizen & Shunsui i bet ther still chatting & having tea while the worlds fall in ruins yet again as Yhwach tears off mimihagi..Some nobles like Yushiro r still sitting this one out even thou the fate of the world is at stake…& as for Byakuya, he really should have died & leave room for Rukia & Renji to grow up which would have made lots & lots of sense as Nick put it
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As for whose stronger btn Yhwach & Yamamoto, i still think Yhwach is alot stronger from where it stands, i think Yamamoto even if he had the same strength as he had in his prime, the only thing he would have manage this time around unlike then is he would have put up a decent fight..Yhwach said it himself that he would have considered Yamamoto as a war potential if he only had the potential he had in his prime which could only mean Yhwach was even stronger this time around unlike when they fought 1000 years ago, plus the way Yama lost to Yhwach i dont think it had anything to do with fact that Royd & loyd fought him, i think the old actually thought no Quincy(even watch Yhwach) could actually steal his bankai since he thout he was stronger than any of them…I bet Yhwach actually being able to steal his bankai came as a shocker to him since he didnt actually think he was able to do so he still consider himself the strongest btn them, a terrible mistake in his part, i actually remember Yhwach telling the old man that his arrogance costed him..& the way he finished him it surely says alot..So whether Yama had both his two arms or hadn’t fought both Royd & loyd, the result would have likely be the same or at best he would put a decent fight & lose in the end…I still think Ichibei is still the strongest, i think he knows the true strength of every shinigami out there since he knows the name of every shinigami true shikai & bankai even wen their zanpaktou r still an asauchi hence him being called “the monk of perception”…with him knowing all this & the ability he possess..I truly dont see any shinigami standing up to him, & if if ther is a Shinigami stronger than him, im sure he would know…As for Unohana i cant really tell but i have always considered her in the same league as Yamamoto…Thou according to Unohana, Zaraki is the only one individual born with the potential of actually defeating him, as for Zaraki, Ichigo & Toshiro(is Toshiro dead or wat?) i see them as being the strongest in distant future..
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Ya I think even if Yamamoto had his other arm, and used his Bankai on Yhwach, he still would have lost. And Yhwach would have taken a while to defeat him. So he came up with that awesome plan involving Royd Lloyd. I consider Unohana as strong as Yamamoto. But ya your right Ichibei is the strongest from his crazy hax name abilities. Well whatever Unohana’s Zanpakuto Minazuki can do. But like most people, I think Minazuki can manipulate the flesh of anyone. Sense Minazuki means flesh gorge. Its pretty obvious she made her Shikai heal others when Tenjiro thought her healing Kido. Hey Josephia, have you noticed the appearance of Yamamoto, Unohana, and Ichibei’s Bankai? They are simple on appearance? Yamamoto’s Bankai Zanka no Tachi is just a Zanpakuto that is burned and scorched sword. Unohana’s Bankai Minazuki is just a Zanpakuto flowing in large amounts of blood. And now with Ichibei’s Bankai Shirafude Ichimonji, is just the handle brush with a brush point with white ink. Do you believe the Royal Guard, Shunsui and Jushiro will have plain looking Bankai? Buy still have their crazy abilities enhanced as usually?
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this chapter was okay because uryu had a conflict with his friends, the elite sternritter have returned, yhwach is moving on with his plan, and the soul reapers are presented with another crisis.
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Aizen: soul reaper who is so powerful that his reiatsu can affect one’s existence (after absorbing hogyokou). He is so powerful that he was able to defeat several captains right after they had their battles. After ichigo managed to learn the final getsuga tenshou, aizen was able to fight to his heart’s content, which was on a higher level than other soul reapers. He had twice the energy of a captain, according to his own words. He is also intelligent, shown as he was able to realize that he was not able to engage yamamoto directly, but instead used his pawn to weaken the strongest soul reaper. Aizen is so powerful that there was never an opportunity to use his bankai in battle because he was rarely ever oppressed. He claimed that his own power is far superior than the combined might of the espada, yet acknowledged that his zanpaktou may have been weaker than Yamamoto’s. He used only one finger to stop ichigo’s bankai (after ichigo fought with byakuya). Kisuke is the only soul reaper whom aizen recognizes as having a superior intellect than his own.
Yhwach: quincy who is so powerful that he gave powers to others. He also fought with yamamoto, a soul reaper who was captain commander for over 1000 years because there was no soul reaper born in that time that was stronger than him. Even though yhwach did not “open his eyes” , he managed to kill yamamoto after he (yamamoto) fought with a false yhwach. Yhwach was the only one capable of handling ang yamamoto’s bankai after he stole it. Ichibei, one of the strongest soul reapers, could not defeat yhwach after he “opened his eyes”. He easily parried ichigo’s attacks (after ichigo trained with the royal guard of the soul king). Yhwach is intelligent as shown he was able to take advantage of the hole that led to the soul king’s palace. Uryu is the only quincy that yhwach has chosen to be his successor because of the situations that uryu survived when he should have died.
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Also Yamamoto= defense is so great that nothing can touch him (not even ink). Yamani’s bankai had a destructive nature (very powerful). Yamaji knew level 90’s kido. He had the mindset of an army commander at war; more destructive than peaceful. In real life an army commander ideally wants to end wars without any casualties as quickly as possible with great force. His punches send you flying. To summarize, yamaji can destroy a large area, probably more than anyone else (I’m not sure about kenpachi…).
Ichibei=offense so great that he takes away your abilities (even flames). Ichibei’s bankai had an extremely dangerous, mysterious nature (dark magic). Ichibei knew forbidden kido. He had the mindset of a monk; more peaceful than destructive. In real life, monks do not want to fight. Ichibei takes one’s abilities so that they are unable to fight. His palms send you away a great distance. To summarize, ichibei is not meant to destroy a large area but he is very dangerous (probably more dangerous than being unable to touch someone).
So….who is stronger? Ichibei
Who is more powerful? Yamamoto
At this is my interpretation of these characters. What do all of you think?
Ps- depending on the sidereal and tropical zodiac signs, I’m either a Libra or Scorpio (how cool is that!)
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I apologize. I suppose being able to take away one’s abilities and rewrite them as well is indeed a sign of being both powerful and strong. However I still think Yamaji’s bankai is more powerful than ichibei’s but not by a lot. Ichibei’s bankai is indeed powerful I want to make that clear. Power can be destructive or subtle.
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I guess we will have to see who is stronger to make a good choice. I wanna see Unohana go all out and she can get factored into this with Yamamoto and Ichibei. Her only skill she has shown to be the best is Zanjutsu. Her skill in this art is so great, she became so powerful. I’m sure whatever Minazuki can do, it’s haxed as hell. I guess they are equal. Sense Like You Said Yamamoto is destruction, and Ichibei takes away your powers. But both lost to Yhwach.
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I think ichibei is stronger than Yamamoto because he knows forbidden kido while Yamamoto knows level 90. However I think Yamamoto is more destructive due the nature of his bankai. I’m still not too sure who is the most powerful soul reaper because ichibei is very powerful with his ink that can stop reincarnation while Yamamoto can bring back the dead. Hmmmmm…I think ichibei is indeed the most powerful and strongest soul reaper while Yamamoto comes in second place with his destructive sword (hottest). Unohana’s minazuki is mysterious. I’m not sure if minazuki is a girl or boy, what type of nature is it (healing, fighter, magic). I’m thinking along the lines of unohana may have forced a change in minazuki. I cannot rate her in comparison to Yamamoto because of her ambiguous nature. Zaraki has the most destructive combat type of zanpaktou hands down, no questions about it (however I think kyoraku may be able to defeat him still).
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Still don’t see why people over hype Aizen like no…just no ✋?. He is powerful yes but on Yhwach level; hell no!. The only person who should be the strongest overall is Ichigo a damn hybrid lol. That is all.
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Aizen is able to erase people with only his reiatsu. Yhwach seemingly cannot be defeated because he can see the future and he fought the most powerful soul reapers directly.
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Wow it’s 4:10 am! Time for bed. Goodnight/good day to you all.
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Yhwach acknowledge yamamoto was stronger than him but at the final moment he said yamamoto was weaker than him because unlike yhwach who uses his subordinates as pawns yamamoto lost the guts to do the same because of kurosaki ichigo and he made an example of yamamoto not wanting orihime to heal his left hand..yamamoto if he was still in his prime would have still defeated yhwach but my question is why didn’t yama-ji kill him the first time they fought.
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1000 years ago, Yamamoto used his allies as ashes. He didn’t care about them at all. Yhwach said he got weaker because he cared. Its not a question why didn’t he kill him. Its more like he couldn’t kill him.
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Do you think yhwach used his “the almighty” during his fight with yamaji 1000 years ago?
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I Dont know yamaji did not kill yhwach but I think that if Yamamoto fought yhwach with “open eyes”, Yamamoto probably could not win. What if yhwach did not use the almighty against yamaji the first time the fought? What do you think?
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I’m not so sure. I mean, The Almighty can see the future and negate abilities. I’m wondering how that would work with Yamamoto’s ability to erase anyone out of existence. He probably didn’t. That could explain why Yamamoto is still alive.
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My thoughts exactly. I mean yhwach could possibly lose to yamaji with his op ability. On another note, I suspect mimihagi might play a role in depowering yhwach but this is my opinion.
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I meant yhwach could not possibly lose to yamaji with his “open eyes”.
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Ya that’s true. Even with his eyes “closed”, he is still very formidable and a powerful opponent. But when he had to use his full power against someone like Ichibei
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Nick, about your qn earlier, i think so too thou i cant really make anything of Jushiro’s Bankai given his shikai ability, & also i think ther is an even darker aspect of Shunsui’s bankai as wel thou i think in bankai his abilities will be enhanced & have a dark aspect to it given the release name of his zanpaktouz…& Trinin, i like u view & perception of things..its true Yamaji has the most destructive power of all, but still Ichibei’s power sick power beats that…& i also agree with u on Shunsui being stronger than Zaraki currently, i think the fact that he was about to train Zaraki regardless of that the soul society thought of Zaraki just shows is confidence, only that he wasn’t suited for the task…Thou i see Zaraki having the potential of being even stronger than him in future, Ichigo & Toshiro too(if he is still alive)..As for Unohana being in the same league as Yama, im just being fair in acknowledging each one of them based on what i know of each…I know most of the guys will find this abit weird, but for those of you who have done a digging on Unohana, they are likely to agree with me on a word or two…Unohana is my very definition of the strongest Soul reaper, strong, fearless, versatile, level headed, smart, perceptive & has killer instincts (ruthless)(& fights dirty too, anything just to put her on the edge)…idk if u know this but unlike Kenpachi who was just naturally born with a natural never say die altitude/raw potential(will power/Reiryoku) watever u’ll call it, Unohana actually worked on everything to make herself truly invisible, her knowledge in the art of killing is unrival in all of the soul society hence why she is a good healer coz of her knowledge in body anatomy during her bloodthirsty days, Her knowledge in kido(& this might come as a shocker to many) & the flow of spiritual energy its unrival within the soul society(source bleach wikia) hence why she also manage to understand & master healing kido, & she also possesses alot of knowledge about the unforbbiden techniques(including kido) hence why she was even considered as a diabolical criminal during her blood thirsty past coz of her use of unfobbiden techniques & her killings, apart from that, she is also highly proficent in both hakuda & Zanjutsu(way of the sword) & particularly in the art of Kendo, & its said to be the master of various countless styles of swordsmanship hence the meaning behind her previous name, “Yachiru”…Guys, we are taking about a Shinigami inverted the title “Kenpachi” here, she even once confessed that ther is a Soul reaper who can stand up to her with exception of Kenpachi Zaraki, She the very reason i dont take Zaraki lightly either, its said her spiritual knowledge enabled her to even convert her shikai deadly abilities to healing ones, & resorted in using her zanpaktou as a melee type even thou its a kido type of zanpaktou, truly i just cant see wat Yamamoto can throw that Unohana cant handle…Since none has ever crossed the path of the other & since each of the respect the strength of one another & the founding members of the gotei 13, its safe to assume atleast for me that they are a stalement
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I appreciate your opinion on my theories regarding the levels of these soul reapers. Now that you’ve brought up some interesting points, Unohana might be able to defeat yamaji in battle, in my opinion. She was always quiet but powerful and cunning and intelligent.
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I think she can defeat Yamamoto in battle. Her only scar she has from battle is from Chibi Zaraki. But Ichibei, I don’t think so. I mean, we will have to see sense his powers basically cripple anyone he meets besides Yhwach. Yamamoto gave up teaching The Art of Killing to Zaraki in a day. While it took Unohana three sense she invented the technique. He did want her for his Gotei 13 army and see agreed because she knew Yhwach and his Sternritter would be formidable.
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& emmanuel, Yamamoto might have been strong then but stil he failed to kill Yhwach, not that he wouldnt, he just wasnt able to actually kill him…Yhwach was just stronger this time around, i mean he stole Yamamoto’s bankai & didn’t use it against him & still he finished him just like that, one might say Yamamoto was weaker & old & with one arm this time around but wat could he have done to make the difference even if he had none of that given wat we have already seen? Nothing!other putting a decent fight, either way, from the look of things, he would have died anyway, Yhwach wasn’t going to let him live for old times sakes…
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I just want to see the sternritters. Candy, Meni, Gigi, Lil, Bazz, and Nana..?.
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Aj has a point; i wonder if the leftover sternritters will turn to the soul reapers’ side….surely someone with a personality like candice will not be happy with how yhwach treated them. I can see the possibility of the sternritter assisting the soul reapers in the upcoming fight with the elite quincy. Also I was expecting more characters to show up like the full bringers, the unknown person who was with orihime and chad (maybe grimjow?), ryuken, isshin and where is yachiru too? So many things that are left unanswered right now (but maybe kubo will answer these questions soon because there is still time) *fingers crossed*
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True the Sternritter are very upset at Yhwach for what he did. But I personally don’t believe the remaining Sternritter will help the Shinigami. They are the very same race that killed them and preformed Genocide on them for many centuries. The older Sternritter seem to except how Yhwach is because Jugram, Mrs. Black eyes, Askin, Pernida, Lille, and Gerard don’t care at all. They know how he is and they understand. So either way I don’t know what they will do.
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Maybe the powerless sternritter memebers will not join the soul reapers directly, but i can see if they turn against yhwach and his elites, even if they dont join the soul reapers. And like AJ said maybe ryuken can somehow restore some of the sternritters abilities like bazz-b, candice, liltotto, giselle, nananana (if he is alive), meninas and i really hope kubo reveals Robert’s “the N”.
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There is just so much potential to this last arc and kubo could go out with a bang by throwing some surprises if he does another turn back the pendulum arc from 1000 years ago. Kubs could also add more battles and prolong the fights by making the characters that are m.i.a. like yachiru, full bringers, etc. return with an epic twist to the story.
Man, there is too much to say (im just so suddenly excited for no reason!).
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I believe the way the Sternritter cab restore their lost powers us to fire a Heilig Pfeil near their heart. They didn’t lose their Schrift, they lost most of their Reiyoku to use their Schrift. I guess Ryuken will do something. But than that just adds to the whole list of people that are supposedly go on a fight the Elite Guard. Which I highly doubt cause that is way too much good guys verses very little bad guys. That’s why I kinda see the remaining Sternritter fighting the Shinigami and Visord in Serietei.
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Honestly I think Ryuken will come for them. I mean what else can they do. We all know that Ryuken can restore powers; like what he did to Uryu. I see him coming for his people and with the motives to kill Yhwach..I wouldn’t be surprised if him and Isshin has met up and already talked things over for the sake of Masaki and the world.
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See I don’t know that’s a possibility. But honestly, in this chapter, Yhwach said he will leave the Serietei Alone For A while. I believe that Freza looking black finger Beam is to destroy the gateway Kisuke build. I don’t know if the Sternritter will rebel or not. They finally know what it means to be a Sternritter. If they can’t except that, than oh well.
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I guess so and I think that is a big possibility..and that they will have no choice but to go to kukkaku.
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Oh yeahbi forgot about her too (wasnt she with the full bringers?)
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Idk. Last time we saw her was when she was telling them something but she didn’t leave with them.
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I don’t know what training with the Fullbringers will due to help Ganju in this fight. He literally has no powers what so ever. I wonder how Kukaku helped them get stronger.
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i really should do a thoro reading on quincies, i dont really know much about them except for Yhwach, Masaki & the Ishidas
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Am i the only one who hopes riruka makes a return? something else that has been on my mind for a long time is do captains get paid for the duties? are there stores in soul society and the rukongai? do they have money? it wouldnt make sense if they do but it would be funny though in my opinion.
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I believe she will return. I like Riruka and her Fullbring Is Actually Pretty eff Effective. Yes the Shinigami do get paid for their service. Its just like modern military service. Byakuya is the richest. The stories are usually the mini shows Kubo makes. My favorite is when the female Shinigami club wanted to take photos of everyone in the Serietei. And they used Byakuya’s house as their hang out and use his pool and Koi pond. When they fought Aizen in the winter, they had to pay for pay damages they caused the Soul Society.
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I’m a Libra (October 22nd)
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So I collect Zanpakto..& I jus got Ginjo’s…its fuckin sweet!
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Really? That’s so cool! You got his Fullbring Cross Of Stafford? That’s do cool. I know someone trying to make Yhwach’s Spirit Weapon. And Jugram’s Spirit Weapon too.
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Yhwachs spirit weapon would be very cool. Ichigos dual zanpakto is my favorite so far
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Ya It certainly is awesome. He better use his shorter Quincy/Fullbringer Zangetsu in the next battle. I can’t wait to see what else he can do. Or Uryu’s Schrift ability too.
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Ichigo better be holding back some insane fucking power cause with Bach’s power 2 see & absorb everything it really doesn’t look good. I can’t believe Mimihagi is simply defeated jus like that. There has 2 be more 2 it… jus wasting an amazing character like Ukitake would be jus plain Omeda…(Stupid)!
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Jus think 4 a second.. Aizens shikai is God level… I can only imagine his Bankai (if he has one) can completely alter reality… which would really fuck Juha Bach up!!!!!
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I believe his Bankai will somewhat effect Yhwach. To an extent I believe. But his Shikai? I don’t think so.
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Aizen’s Bankai I feel is more deadly than Yamamoto’s & Ichibei’s. I get the feeling he can make clones of any Shinigami, Quincy or anything (and they’ll have same mind, strength, abilities, etc) and make them fight for him, so random but ya :).
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That sounds crazy! XD. Whatever his Bankai is, It Gonna Increase His Already haxed Illusions.
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His Bankai is whatever he wants it to be loll. Also, question Nick. When Bazz B & all sternritters go Vollstanding their attacks just get stronger right? It doesn’t change a lot like Shikai & Bankai.
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True that man! Kubo could do a lot about Aizen’s Bankai. Oh yes. Vollständig does increase a Quincy’s Overall Schrift abilities. Schrift and Vollständig is basically the Quincy version of Shikai and Bankai. Like when Bazz-B used his Vollständig, and used Burner Finger 1 and 4, they became stronger than when he is just using his Schrift/Spirit Weapon. Pepe used his Vollständig to try and kill Byakuya. Liltotto used hers to kill Pepe. Giselle used hers to revive herself and increase her healing capabilities. And BG9 used his to revive himself from being grievously injured by Sui-Feng’s Bankai.
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