Bleach 617 shows the return of a God, Aizen Sosuke’s mouth is unsealed by Ukitake, but most of his restrains have already disappeared allowing him to speak, see and move freely. Ukitake and his Mimihagi enable and initiate their Kamikake to find the Soul King, as soon it touches it, all the trembling disappears as as it seems Ukitake’s life force will aid in saving the Soul King. This chapter is suitably titled “Return of the God”, and you know exactly why!
Bleach 617 begins with an image of Aizen who has been restrained by a large number of seal on his body. We see Ukitake scream as Mimihagi and it’s hand appears from his eyes and mouth. It goes all the way to the sky as we notice that the quaking has stopped.
Yhwach notices that it’s calmed down, asking what has just happened. Out of nowhere, Kamikake appears and holds the body of the Soul King imprisoned in the solid block as Kamikake tries to prevent everything from collapsing. Yhwach asks if this is how it’s gone, to have him miss such a thing with his eyes.
He asks if this is actually the Soul King himself, shouting asking why the right arm of the Soul King is meddling in such affairs. Asking if the attachment he has with the Soul Society causing him to protect it all. We see Ukitake on the floor with his face covered with the black substance.
Soi fon asks how long it’ll last, as she mentions that she doesn’t think he will become the substitute Soul King, and that bringing stability will consume his life force. How long will he has she asks, to which Urahara doesn’t have any idea since he has never seen the Kamikake before.
During this time they must find a way to help him out as he does his own job. They need to get to the Royal Palace as soon as possible. Elsewhere, we see Ukitake in front of a number of holes which correspond to the number of seals on Aizen. Ukitake asks if he can even talk using reiatsu.
Ukitake has a number of keys, to which he’s been given permission to use three of them. He will first release one for his mouth.Urahara notices that the gate they’re using is dematerialising due to the fact that they don’t have enough reiatsu. They explain that Ukitake has a lot of reiatsu and that he used to store it all.
They dont have any hope when the others appear in their shihakusho, they’re given an orb and get in. Mayuri also appears and looks down on them, then jumps down to them. Mayuri figures out that he’s trying to accumulate everyone’s reiatsu to try and forge the gate.
If they need a lot of reiatsu then all they need to do is get a amplification machine, which Mayuri seems to have. They go ahead and it, the gate begins to form. Ukitake unseals his mouth as he mentions that instead of talking through reiatsu, he should be able to use his mouth now.
He’s been sealed for around 2 years, and not talking during this time will probably not affect him. To which Aizen speaks mentioning that he’s not been affected at all. Ukitake quickly realises that he’s only unsealed his mouth when Aizen begins to walk, talk and see him! Aizen has been fully unsealed! Aizen asks if he’s shocked, and how he has two more keys to go! Bleach 617 ends with Aizen breaking loose all on his own, and Ukitake only using one key!
WOW! Such a magnificent episode, it’s awesome to finally see Aizen in such a crazy state and he looks magnificent in that he’s half sealed and has somewhat an eye patch. I can’t wait to see him in his new look! I really can’t wait for next week’s Bleach 618!
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well is pretty funny how weak the reiatsu of all rest captains and vice-captains combined together when once Ukitake is out from giving his reiatsu then the gate is dematerializing due to the fact that they don’t have enough reiatsu…but its pretty amazing how Ukitake was…and it show how big and strong his reiatsu are…
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also its funny how upset Juha get just because there are things that he couldn’t see with his eyes…i bet if he didn’t have that eyes, he is done by Hyosube right now
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Well they are his Schrift ability. So ya I would imagine so. I remember Aizen getting more upset when final Getsuga Ichigo just kept overwhelming him. But now he knows what happens, and apparently Mimihagi can talk. Cause Yhwach is speaking to it.
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Thats true, but remember most of the other captains have been fighting their own battles. We haven’t seen Ukitake fight once, the others are still slowly recovering. I’m glad that Mayuri showed up at such a critical moment, especially since Urahara was at such a point where he didn’t know what else to do. Mayuri really saved him from embarrassment.
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Well Kisuke isn’t always the smart guy. Plus they are in the 12th Division, and in Mayuri’s laboratory.
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well like Nanao said, even Ukitake has not been fighting any Sternritter in 2nd invasion, he still keep using his own reiatsu every second, every time, every day, or in other words he is kept using his reiatsu all of time as long as he still alive just because to support his weak body which the rest of captains and vice-captain didn’t. Also he already consumed huge of his reiatsu when he casting the Kamikake’s Shadow back then when he meet with Kyoraku. Well like people said just don’t judge book by its cover, even Ukitake is the person who hate engage in fight, most peacefully man, and have a weak body, it doesn’t mean he is not strong as Kyoraku are. Yamamoto said both of them are equal..
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yup…even he have the most weak and sickly body in the series he still equal with Kyoraku..imagine how powerful he become when he didn’t sick…
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ikr, sadly we are not going to see his twin fish bankai
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Ya he must have been as strong as Tenjiro or Kirio if he never got sick. I think when Kubo shows the first 1000 year blood war, we will see a young Jushiro using his Bankai, and also see a young Robert using his Schrift And Vollständig.
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They Are Equal. I’m not surprised that he had the highest Reiatsu of that group. Makes sense to me.
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Like I said, nothing was holding Aizen. He could’ve left whenever he wanted, Can’t wait for next weak. Yhwach huge weakest, can’t foresee anything regarding the Soul King or anything connected to it. We need anime back
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Looks like Aizen is going up there. But he did know about Mimihagi, he seems mad at it. How weird.
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Yea ik, he’s confused and then hells at the soul king. He has no arms or legs, looks weird should’ve suspected with his knowledge.
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I’m sure Yhwach knew about Mimihagi, he just said right arm km the Soul King, he just didn’t think it would do this. Now here comes the fight I honestly I’m scared to see. Yhwach kills Ichigo.
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Yea upcoming fights are going to be epic. Honestly I don’t think Ichigo will ever die. He dies and comes back (Uliquora), gets seriously injured and gets healed. Main character won’t happen. He’s going to hurt Yhwach but Ichigo will probably lose.
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Ya I can’t wait man! I’m so excited!! XD I think Yhwach will kill Ichigo, but Orihime will bring him back. I would have liked it better if she was the one that brought back Ichibei from the dead. I didn’t really like that Kubo made Ichibei use a weird name technique on Ichibei to revive himself. Hopefully she can save Ichigo in this fight.
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Ichibei revival was weird but whatever, hopefully he comes to fight now. Orihime did some training so hopefully she has some new abilities, like healing more than one person or shielding many from attacks.
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I am expecting alot from her. Her powers so unique and that of a celestial being. I believe her powers are related to the Soul King. She cab reverse time, bring people back from the dead, protect and erase people as well. I can’t wait to see of her powers are Shinigami or Quincy, or both
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Yea when Espadas kidnapped her, Aizen stated that her powers surpassed that of a Gods or something. Don’t think its related to Shinigami or Qunicy, but never know, Kubo killing as always. When did she bring someone back from dead?
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Ya he did say that. And I think she is somehow related to the Soul King. And I believe her powers are part Quincy cause she uses Reishi to use her abilities, not Reiatsu. Oh, When Grimmjow killed Meloly with his Cero, she received her back.
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Aizen could have escaped at any time, however over the 2 years, he must have been meddling and controlling everything from there. He must have some kind of contacts here and there. Plus using Reiatsu talking method, he could have been talking to anyone else. Which raises the questions, who could that be, possibly Yhwach himself?
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I think he was just planning what to do. He may not show look like it, but I’m sure he is nervous like everyone else about Yhwach.
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Yeah Aizen might be a little nervous, but he may know Yhwach’s weakness and how to counter his attacks. Aizen probably didn’t join with him, and wasn’t even scared of him for this reason.
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I think he is just Cockey. But I don’t know what he can do to Yhwach. I don’t see him lasting long against Yhwach ir Ichibei couldn’t.
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I wonder if Ywach might of set him free?!!
Kubo is making a fool out of uharah lol.
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Oh lord you think so?! He did speak with him during the first invasion. He did want him to be a war potential. What if Yhwach pulls a “Aizen troll” on Aizen himself? I still think he has a plan to deal with him.
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If Yhwach prepared well enough, and he seems to have… I’m sure he’s also got something that will stop Aizen if he does decide to attack. There’s a reason why Aizen is possibly a war potential here. He even wanted Aizen to become one of his ranked soldiers. But I guess Aizen had bigger and better things to do. Aizen in his restrains looks awesome!
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Yhwach wanted to take Aizen just Like when he was about to take Ichigo. But he could have taken him by force but he decided not too, but Yhwach is up to way more important things. And killing the Soul King is just one of them.
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Yhwach hasn’t really revealed why he’s doing all this, yes he wants to destroy all the dimensions but what will he gain out of it? Will he somehow create a new dimension from all of these? or somehow get some kind of reward, or get the Soul King’s powers? I wonder what it might be.
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Ya he is unknown. I think Aizen has an idea, but not the whole reason why Yhwach is doing this. He might want everyone to die, or replace the Soul King.
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He did gon see him down there!! Aizen troll is what will happen at some point
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That’s what I am expecting. But I call then “All-knowing troll”, the first one was when Yhwach tricked Yamamoto to ffighting Royd Lloyd and stole his Bankai
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I honestly think that aizen is only using kyoka suigetsu to make it appear that he is free. What do you think?
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Oh shit! That is such a possibility! Man your so smart! 🙂 Cause Shunsui was so surprised, that Bakudo spell on Aizen is very powerful.
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Yeah he tricked him good with that.
Do u think Shunsui went to see him unprepared tho?
Ywach n Aizen in one arc is crazy n should be a thriller in chapters to come
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I think he had a backup plan. He may not be as intelligent as Aizen, but he has proven to be a much better military leader.
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I highly disagree on the last part, but I’m sure that Shunsui has something up his sleeve. Most likely it’ll be a bluff tactic since he can’t beat Aizen. Either way, he’s probably confident that Aizen will help out now that the Soul King is dead.
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Yeah agreed, I’m sure he’ll try and recruit Aizen, even if it’s temp. And use his abilities to gamble some kind of plan. Probably remove a few years from his sentence for helping out. Aizen will most likely want to join the fun, but it’ll be hard to tell which side he’s truly on. From what I know, he’ll try to piss off Ichigo, the other captains and even Yhwach. They’ll all hate him, but need his help to battle their opponents. Aizen I guess is one of the key players here.
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And that’s what I like about Aizen. He’s not afraid of everyone. He’ll still talk down to the heroes while he helps out since he knows that they need him at this point. I personally don’t see Aizen living through this arc, but hopefully he’ll end with a bang. Landing a critical hit on Bach (I’m already so used to the old translation of his name) or maybe giving Ichigo his final power up. That would definitely be pretty awesome.
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Wait you think he’s going to do a Gin? Joining up with the big force and try to betray them? That would be spectacular but I’m sure Yhwach will see through. We still have Jugram and Uryuu, which is apparently the next heir? So he’ll be the next Quincy King, similar to Ukitake, the next Soul King. If this is how it goes, it’ll be interesting.
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I’m cool with Aizen joining so long as he joins the Quincies by murdering Yhwach. That would be a pretty massive twist and it would certainly shake the whole franchise. Imagine Uryuu having to become the Quincy King not to destroy the Soul Society, but to take his race back from Aizen? That would be pretty awesome!
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Wow I never actually thought of that, he did something similar with the Hollows, if this is how it’ll go then damn!!! Aizen will be even more of a beast then I’d thought. He’ll be indescribably awesome!
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Honestly I don’t see Aizen living long in this war. Yhwach is the strongest antagonist in Bleach, not Aizen. If anything, I see Yhwach murdering Aizen. As strong as he is Yhwach is just way better in all aspects in my eyes.
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I just don’t see Yhwach taking Aizen down. Yhwach is already starting to panic and it’s only been a few minutes since he awakened into his final form. Aizen kept his calm for far longer. I’d definitely argue that Aizen is still the strongest villain by a large margin. His illusions simply cannot be stopped and thanks to Yhwach’s many limitations, I don’t see him faring too well here. For plot reasons, Aizen will ultimately have to die, but not before he deals many critical hits to the franchise. Ichigo will end up as the victor, reject the Soul King title and decide to keep on working as a substitute shinigami over on Earth.
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Aizen has always been the Bleach antagonist. His time is up, Yhwach is up next and he is way better than Aizen. I see a different outcome that so many people don’t think is gonna happen. And I don’t believe a previous villan will be stronger than a current one. That’s not how writing works. The Almighty is way more powerful than Aizen’s illusions. If he took on Ichibei, he would lose. Yhwach didn’t lose. So that’s what I think.
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We definitely disagree on Yhwach’s character, both in power levels and overall likability as I find Aizen to also be much cooler. I really don’t think Ichibei could even hold a candle to Aizen. He wouldn’t be able to see or react to Aizen’s attacks as well as his high speed regeneration. As for an old villain being stronger than the new one, it happens all the time. Just look at One Piece. Mihawk appeared at around volume 3-6 and he’s still stronger than almost all of the villains in the current arc…and it’s been around 15 years since that point! There are many other examples to that as well so it’s not about how the writing works. If you were to follow such unspoken rules so carefully, it would result in predictable and repetitive stories. The villain doesn’t always need to be stronger, he/she just needs to add some drama or excitement to the story. It can be done through other means than with power and I would say that Kubo has mainly been using shock value for this arc. Most of the characters aren’t as impressive as the Espada although some of the Quincy villains lives up to the rep.
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You must not have seen Ichibei fight. His abilities allow him cripple your powers and make you weak. How are Aizen’s illusions supposed to counter Ichimonji’s ink? I don’t see that at all. If you think Ichibei Is Weaker Than Aizen than you are dead wrong in my opinion. He can erase all the powers he gained from the Hogoyku. Sure, illusions are cool, but seeing the future is way better. Plus, the Espada are fewer than the Sternritter, Kubo have way more time to improve Them than the Sternritter. But unlike the Espada, many Sternritter have proven to be very powerful, plus, no Arrancar can match the Royal Guard, but the Quincy can. Enter Elite Guard. Yhwach is just better, and I guess I’m the only one that thinks that.
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Lol good discussion. Random but I favour Aizen more than Yhwach but they’re probably equal maybe. Aizen’s definitely been waiting and plotting, going to be huge battle. Aizen won’t die unless they use the Dragon Balls to take his immortality. Yhwach’s ability to see the future doesn’t guarantee victory, there’re somethings that he can see that he’ll be powerless too, I see flaws. Latest antagonist doesn’t always mean strongest antagonist. Feel like they met before this arc, when they meet its going to be epic.
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I know. Its just Yhwach seems way stronger, Kubo makes him appear that way and I’ll stick to what the writer thinks. He’s doing the same thing to Liltotto for being one of the Strongest Sternritter X but still many people can’t except it.
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I agree with Lil lol but I think those 8 sternitters( Lil,Meni,Bazz,Candy,Robert,Nana, and Gigi/Bambi) are the strongest sternritters along with Ryod excluding Gremmy.
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As a whole j agree they are the strongest. Robert is one, Royd two, and Liltotto three
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Heh heh heh, Aizen lives! His debut was everything that I could have hoped as he already unlocked all of the seals. That’s definitely pretty impressive and he’s got his powers at the ready. Bleach is definitely getting ready now and the chapter was pretty slow paced, but the last scene made it all worth it. Bach’s limitations are already becoming apparent as his “All Seeing Eyes” actually aren’t all seeing. Whether Aizen or Ichigo defeats him, the Hype is certainly going to be real. I’m going to have to alternate between this and Smash Bros in the upcoming weeks to keep myself from exploding with hype.
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I loved the title for this chapter “Return of the God!”, just reading that blew me away. Aizen is a beast, and after a long two years. I’m sure Ichigo isn’t the only one who’s gotten stronger! I think it was apparent that Yhwach’s eye was never all seeing, it’s most likely just something he can view in his radius, not something far away, it’s more of a gimmick of sorts. At one part, did Yoruichi’s invisible deadly threads thing just get destroyed by Yhwach’s shouting at the Kimikake?
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It certainly was a great chapter! I didn’t notice the threads being destroyed, but if so…that was some yell! I agree that Yhwach’s ability does seem to be like more of a gimmick and what better way to defeat it than with illusions right? An Aizen and Ichigo team up would be pretty thrilling to watch and we’ll see how Uryu enters the equation.
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I dont think aizen actually unlocked the seals. I think it is an illusion.
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I’m thinking it’s more that he tricked Shunsui into unlocking the seals and after each one, he made it seem like he didn’t. Then he let Shunsui realize after he had unlocked the rest of them by altering his perception of time like when he owned Bach during their first encounter.
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That’s also a possibility. But I like what Trinin suggest better. Shunsui looks very surprised, and we all know how Aizen’s illusions work. Plus, Altering Yhwach’s perception of time while his Schrift wasn’t activated doesn’t seem like he owned him. I wanna see him try that again while his The Almighty is active. I guess we will find out next week if Aizen is released, or he is mind fucking Shunsui with no lube or condom.
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lol
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An illusion would just be less climactic and there would be no reason for Shunsui to ultimately follow it. He just has to think it through and realize that he didn’t use the seals. That’s why I’m hoping that he was just owned. As for Aizen vs Bach, I’m definitely looking forward to that fight..it’s going to be awesome!
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Well an illusion is an option. If Aizen is released, there is no way he got out by himself. If he could, he wild have left before this war and even before the Fullbringer Arc. I think when Yhwach visited him like 6 days ago, he released some of the seals for him.
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I think Aizen was just waiting there because he needed Shunsui to open one of the locks so that his reality perception/time perception could do the rest of the work. I don’t think he was already freed from all of the seals before then. Tricking Bach into releasing some of the theories is definitely an idea that I can get behind and it wouldn’t be a stretch considering Aizen’s abilities. I’d definitely be game for that as well.
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I didn’t say Aizen ticked Yhwach into releasing him, I’m saying Yhwach did it on his own. He has a plan for him, so it would make sense to help him get out of that binding spell. And Shunsui released the only one that Yhwach didn’t release.
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Hmm, I don’t know about that. Bach seemed to just give up on Aizen once the latter rejected his offer. After all, Aizen doesn’t work with Quincies. Also, why would he leave the mouth seal for last? I’d assume that Aizen tricked him if the seals had anything to do with the Quincy leader.
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Well I think he has a plan for Aizen. When Royd defeated Zaraki, Yhwach deemed him the weakest war potential, yet he had Gremmy Thoumeaux Fight him. Aizen doesn’t work with Quincy cause he doesn’t have much knowledge about them. He, like all other Shinigami, thought the Quincy were gone, until he saw Masaki. Sense he focuses on Hollows. So I see him being somewhat nervous about joining Yhwach. I don’t believe Yhwach was ticked at all, only his time perception. If you are a threat to Yhwach, he definitely has plan to deal with them
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At the same time, it does make sense to send your strongest after the weakest. Think of it like this, if you send your strongest against their strongest, there will definitely be a chance that your side will lose the fight or that he will at least be gravely injured and easy pickings for the next fighter. Since the Quincies have a pretty big army it makes sense to send the strongest fighter after the weaker ones for guarenteed wins that will still cripple the heroes.
That being said, I’m pretty confident that Aizen dislikes Quincies and simply wouldn’t root for them on principal. He wants to destroy the Soul King so their goals briefly alligned, but he is still a Soul Reaper. I don’t see him being nervous about joining Bach. It’s simply not in his nature and especially since Bach was acting as if Aizen would work for him. Aizen is a subordinate to nobody and even now, his decision will reside on the fact that it’s on his terms.
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You must think a war potential doesn’t mean much. Gremmy Thoumeaux is the strongest Sternritter. Not Including The Elite Guard. That’s true about he fights though. If Gremmy didn’t imagine himself a monster, he would have killed Zaraki. Maybe.
Its weird that Aizen doesn’t consider Quincy to research. Its pretty obvious that the Quincy are connected to the Soul King If Yhwach Is The Son And That Quincy can’t forgive the Soul King. If joining Yhwach isn’t in his agenda, than he hasn’t changed from his arrogant attitude when he lost the Winter War. I don’t see him fighting along side Ichigo if he is still this narcissistic. His arrogance will lead him to fight Yhwach alone and lose.
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Why would his arrogance have left him? Aizen is still as proud and boastful as he always was. He took down all of the Captains teaming up and owned Ichigo and the backup squad for quite a while. He only lost because the Hogyoku rejected him at the last moment. I was not impressed with the War Potentials from the start to be honest. Gremmy’s powers were disappointing and I’d say that Bazz B was far stronger. Mayuri likes doing research, Aizen just did some briefly with the Vizared to test something and then he was set. Just as the Soul King is his sworn enemy so are the Quincies. Also, as I mentioned, Bach would never treat him like an equal. Aizen doesn’t join, he simply commands. I’d love to see him fight Bach one on one, but the result would likely be flipped….
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I think his arrogance did cause him to losse. Did he really think he could fight the entire Royal Guard and win? Man, Ichibei alone could defeat him with the Hogoyku. Yhwach knew they would defeat him, so he had his Elite Guard take them on. Also, if all the Shinigami go up to the Royal Realm to fight Yhwach, he would waste so many of them it’s crazy. As for Gremmy, he is the strongest but very arrogant. Bazz-B? Hell no! Of any Sternritter is better than Gremmy It Is Liltotto Lamperd. She is way better than so many Sternritter. True the Quincy are his enemies. But Leaning About The Quincy is why Kisuke is smarter than Aizen.
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With the Hogyoku, he would have decimated Squad Zero. We’ve already seen that those guys were all hype. FGT Ichigo and Aizen at that point are still the strongest characters in the series. Bach probably would have lost if he had been fighting all of Squad Zero so it’s good that he brought in the backup. That being said, the backup did take out most of the minions so the Squad Zero guys weren’t that tough. Lilitto’s the zombie girl right? I would definitely not say that she was one of the stronger ones and would place Bambi ahead of her. At least Bambi perminantely dealt with the dog Captain and finally wrote him out of the series. Bazz took out Hitsugaya, Liltotto just used her zombies, but she wouldn’t have had any good ones if not for the other Quincy. Aizen’s much smarter than Kisuke. Kisuke didn’t even know about the right hand of the Soul King when random peasants did. This guy’s legend was apparently well known, but Kisuke didn’t know it. He’s decently smart, but nowhere near Aizen level. Aizen planned everything out over 100 years in advance, now that’s genius!
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So butterfly Aizen would be okay being inked by Ichimonji? He would be okay with Having half his Reiyoku and physical capabilities cut in half? Ichimonji would take away his ability to evolve, than his Bankai would make him an ant and kill him. So ya. Aizen would not defeat the Soul King. And nether would final Getsuga Ichigo. He couldn’t counter Ichimonji’s ink. People need to except that Kubo has shown characters already stronger than them.
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I can’t accept that without legitamite feats. His air brush is only useful if it hits and likewise with his abilities cut in half. His ability to evolve could not be taken away as it was literally the Hogyoku that was evolving him. Are you actually saying that Aizen and Ichigo could not destroy the Soul King? A stab effortlessly defeated him. The Soul King can’t even move, much less think. It’s completely and utterly powerless until proven otherwise. The Quincies are much stronger than the Fullbringers, but I can’t say much else for most of them. Kubo just can’t top Arc 2 and I think he’s starting to realize that, which is why he’s bringing Aizen back.
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Liltotto Lamperd is Sternritter G The Glutton. Zombie girl is Giselle Gewelle. Kubo showed us that Liltotto is one of the strongest Sternritter. Her Schrift is weird but powerful, she has amazing speed, durability, and endurance. I see her being eay better than Gremmy, not Bazz-B. Also, Aizen said Kisuke is the only person who is smarter than him in the Soul Society. Plus, has Aizen even mentioned Mimihagi? Nope. If Kisuke didn’t even know about Mimihagi, than I highly doubt Aizen did. And Kisuke only heard of Mimihagi, he didn’t know it was connected to the Soul King.
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Wait, you think that she is that tough? When did Kubo even imply it? She ate a character who was already dying, but that’s not very impressive. She’s done almost literally nothing on screen! She’s the definition of a hype character at the moment. I do agree that she can likely destroy Gremmy, but she has nothing that suggests that it would even be a close fight with Bazz B. The guy who fought Soi Fon and the one who fought Byakuya would likely be a lot stronger than her. Likewise with Bambi. There’s always the chance that she will get a fight soon, but it’s slim so she didn’t get many feats. As for Aizen saying that…all for the hype. In literal smartness, like textbook knowledge, Urahara may know more, but factor in combat intelligence and cunning, then it’s not even close.
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So Aizen doesn’t have the Hogoyku anymore? It’s in his chest if I remember. So Ichimonji would cover Hogoyku in ink, and it’s ability to evolve Aizen would stop. Because it’s ability is to make a person go to their fullest extent. But how can it counter Ichimonji If It Can’t Evolve anymore? Of if Hogoyku is covered in ink, Aizen will forget it’s name. And if it’s name is forgotten it’s power is as well. So ya, I don’t see Hogoyku Aizen defeating Ichibei.
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The Hogyoku isn’t a simple item to be countered. It seems to be alive to an extent and covering it with the ink won’t work. The Hogyoku can keep going until it doesn’t want to go anymore, that’s just how powerful it is. It can’t simply stop. Again, the ink has to hit Aizen to make him forget his name and I have a feeling that it would be tougher for an evolved being to forget. Ichibei doesn’t have the speed to keep up with Aizen and he would be completely lost with the illusions.
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True it would be hard for Ichibei. But his ink covered all of Yhwach, so I’m sure it can cover all of Aizen and Hogoyku. If it’s in ink, it has no power to evolve. Plus, have you see Ichibei? He pushed Yhwach 1000 Rai and moved behind him seconds later. He has the speed to keep up. Man, I Love Talking With You Dreager1. Your so smart 😉
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I am pretty charasmatic. I’ve managed to get into quite a few…big debates over the years. Some do make most readers wince.
http://dreager1.com/2012/08/25/gemini-saga-vs-ichigo/
Now, as for the debate, it was impressive with how far he pushed Bach and appeared behind him. It’s a great speed feat to be sure, but I consider Aizen to be faster than Bach and I don’t believe that Ichibei could pull the same stunt on him. Again, the Hogyoku is at a higher level of power than Ichibei. Similar to how the ink wouldn’t work on Bach now that he’s the Almighty, it wouldn’t work on the Soul King or the Hogyoku. Nothing can stop it from evolving. Ichibei was probably the best Squad Zero member and he did fight so I give him props for that, but he can’t beat Aizen. Been nice debating with you as well =)
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I do believe she is that strong. You think she has no feats? So shrugging off a Vollständig enhanced Burner Finger 1 from Bazz-B isn’t impressive? Or figuring op Byakuya in Bankai with Meninas, Robert, Candice, and NaNaNa. And her and Meninas are the only ones standing with only moderate injures, while Robert, Candice, and NaNaNa are defeated? Or PePe Waccabrada used The Love on Meninas, and have her used her full power and decked her? Than She Defeated Her With On New Injures? Than she killed Pepe with her Vollständig, and he was in his Vollständig, and he only had moderate injures from Zombie Kensei? And she was smart and fast enough to dodge and save Giselle from Auswählen? Really, Bazz-B defeating Toshiro is okay. But Toshiro Is Like One Of The Weakest Captains. He is onto stronger than Mayuri. Bazz-B fighting Renji is impressive, but he wasn’t fighting Rukia either. Just Renji. So she very fast, durable, and has amazing endurance and you think Bazz-B and As Nodt are stronger than her? The same As Nodt who couldn’t do anything in his Vollständig against op Byakuya in Shikai? Really I only see BG9 being as strong as her. But Bazz-B, Meninas, and As Nodt? Nope. Kubo was showing us how strong she is, as much as people choose to ignore it.
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That’s a lot of text, but look at it closely. Over half of the feats that you just showed involve her teaming up with others or beating up on severely wounded opponents. Her only real feat is blocking Bazz B’s attacks. The rest (Like surviving against Byakuya) don’t really hold up since we don’t know the circumstances. Maybe was attacking from a distance instead of approaching so that she wouldn’t take damage. Also..Pepe only had moderate injuries? Are you kidding…he was Severely Wounded and he already knew that his time was quickly approaching. It’s why he couldn’t even try to escape. BG-9, As Nodt, and Bazz B have got this. I don’t recall who Meninas is by name so I can’t comment on that. Kubo is giving her hype, but we know about Kubo and his hype. (CoughSoulKingDiedInOneShotCough) It’s not so much ignoring as waiting for feats. She simply hasn’t impressed me as of yet.
I do agree that Hitsugaya is fairly weak as far as Captains go, but it was a full fight and we got to see Bazz B’s full abilities without fighting off screen or being interrupted. Renji is probably as strong as Rukia at this point if not stronger so fighting him is pretty impressive. Not Extremely impressive, but impressive nonetheless.
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We can agree to disagree I guess 🙂 I don’t believe Aizen would beat the Royal Guard, but that’s just me. As for Liltotto, I see her stronger than most Sternritter. I remember when she and Meninas fought Byakuya, she mentioned he got a lot stronger and if As Nodt really defeated him. Cause we still don’t know who Rukia fought in the first invasion. I believe she fought Liltotto. The Sternritter said “Turning your back on the enemy? You must really be underestimating me.” Than Rukia is defeated. Liltotto seems like the logical choice to say that sense she is very smart. You think getting punched out by Kensei is more damaging to PePe Than Liltotto taking all the injures she got from two powerful Sternritter and a Captains Bankai? I think not! His injures were not so bad, he is just weak. And true we haven’t seen her fight one on one yet, that’s why I think she will fight Rukia alongside Bazz-B vs Renji.
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this proof how satanic bleach is…. that black hand with one eye will be the God of bleach’s world. Satan has always wanted to be God but He can’t but at least he is that in the animes. in naturo you see the same thing. eyes with 666 in it and not to mention the rinnegan… they call themselves as God. Satan is so desperate to be people’s God but he will never be a God. I will stop watching animes since now and on.
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Ya, and you know who Kubo made Satan to be? Aizen. He is exactly as Satan is described. He is an almost perfect Shinigami, nice looking, and has a hax ability, and he wants to be god. He had an army of demons, aka Hollows. And now we have Yhwach, or Jesus Christ as an antagonist. And the Quincy are a mix or Pagan and Christian beliefs.
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i always thought the same thing
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I just saw the Chapter Again. I missed something. Apparently, Mimihagi is the only being that Yhwach’s Schrift The Almighty cannot predict. So that’s why he was shocked! Okay now I see! Wow, Mimihagi is a badass. And according to Yhwach, he has done this before?
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Is it ironic that yhwach cannot see the future of a one-eyed god?
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Hell ya! Mimihagi is weird in a cool way. I wanna see when it separated from the
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yhwach is stronger..I think apart from being unable to predict mimihagi the rest uneasyness he’s been playing is just to deceive people…most likely he freed the other two seals/keys on aizen knowing ukitake would free the last one and if he actually did that then I believe he has a plan to either use aizen,kill him or take the hyogyoku from him as a substitute to amplify him already stupidly crazy power……aizen trumps all other bleach villains but yhwach is too strong and smart because a man who hasn’t given you his aim is dangerous..aizen kept evolving because he wanted to be soul king but yhwach well we don’t know wat he wants
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Emmanuelle, ninja, I wanna kiss you both! Man your smart! That’s so true! I can’t tell if Yhwach wants to kill everyone, or replace the Soul King? It’s just a mystery and I love that! And hey, I’m sure Yhwach has a plan for Aizen. Who knows what it is.
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yeah aizen is returned….
about Ukitake, even we all knew that Ukitake is one of the strongest captain or even said equal as Kyoraku but this chapter shows how amazing and strong he is even he is a sick man, i mean his portion of reiatsu needs reiatsu of another one captains (Love) and three vice-captain (Lisa, Hyori, Hachi) which all of them also a Visords, not enough with that they still need Mayuri’s reiatsu amplifier to boast all captains class shinigami right there. Sadly we are not going to see him to release his Bankai, and actually he is going to die.
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Wonder how huge Ukitake’s reiatsu is ( I know his reiatsu is so massive as a senior capt with Shunsui and stuff but) that even the combined reiatsu of the visored captains and lieutenants and the Mayuri (around another 6 high reiatsu peeps) can’t compensate for it so that disappointing device must get introduced.
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Thank God Mayuri had a Reiatsu amplifier! Cause Jushiro is the strongest person in that group. I’m just glad Byakuya doesn’t have as much Reiatsu ad Jushiro. While Zaraki should have more than Shunsui and Jushiro, he just woke up from his grievous injures, so his Reiatsu isn’t his fullest, but 2nd to Jushiro.
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Well no matter how strong Byakuya has become, he still a newbie compare to any senior captains and needs hundred years to reach their level. I think Byakuya knows about that so well, that is why he didn’t get mad on Ukitake when Ukitake grabbed his hand and stopped him from killing Yamada in Soul Society Arc or even respectively calling Ukitake with “My Senior”. As for Zaraki, he is already surpassed Unohana as Kenpachi and he almost as strong as Unohana when he is still a kid.
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I think with Zaraki, when he takes his eye patch off and uses Nozorashi is when he reaches Unohana’s level of power. True age sometimes doesn’t matter. Liltotto Lamperd is the youngest Sternritter, and she is the one of the strongest Sternritter. Ya I’m glad Byakuya b isn’t as strong as Jushiro. I did like it when he used Shunpo to stop Byakuya.
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I know age sometimes doesn’t prove anything, and i didn’t point at their age, but their experience. Kyoraku and Ukitake holds the captain position for so long even engaged in the battle for hundred of years. Like Kyoraku and Ukitake said to Stark and Lillinete, they have seen hundreds of cero in the live and even they can judge how powerful their cero just by looking at it, also they know the best what kind of power that can kill them. As for Liltotto, I don’t think she is more stronger than Robert.
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True, the only Captains stronger than them were Yamamoto, Unohana, and probably Aizen. I don’t believe Liltotto is stronger than Robert either. But others like Bazz-B and Meninas yes she is.
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yup about Kyoraku and Ukitake…but it doesn’t change the fact that Liltotto as one of strongest Quincy
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As much as so many people choose to deny it and ignore it, Kubo showed us she is one of the strongest, and she is my personal favorite. I see her fighting Rukia in the near future. I think it’s cause she’s a little girl. And her Schrift is weird but not haxed. I bet if she was a boy some people would change their minds.
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i like Lilltotto too because she was so cool even as a kid…and her ability is the most weird and creepy out all sternritters…
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You’re right, both Kyoraku and Ukitake know so well about their power and capability in the fight even can judge easily how strong their opponent is to the point that they knows so well whether to use their bankai or not. One that I Iike about Ukitake is that he did not tell his opponent about his zanpakuto ability and actually told them to figure out by themselves unlike the most captains like Shinji, Kensei and Rose where they did tell Bambietta and Mask about their ability works after land a one hit, which makes them so stupid then get finished by their opponent in a second.
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That’s so true. Same with Unohana, she never once told Zaraki what her Zanpakuto Can Do. I don’t overrate Mask like many people do. Kensei and Rojuro did a bad job fighting him. Same with Shinji did with Bambietta like you mentioned.
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The hell did all these new people come from? ?. I really don’t know what to say about this chapter. Aizen coming back was cool but he doesn’t get me excited because it seems like he’s ALWAYS one step ahead of people which gets boring. I would have went crazy if it showed a chapter about Tier turning into a Quincicar with a dozen of quincicars under her command as a back up for the Yhwach and the elites but…..its whatever. I just wasn’t that excited. I really want a chapter about the sternritters.. Like give us some damn character development and some more interactions between them. I no longer care for the shinigami like I use too. All these bullshit power ups except Rukia/Renjo they DESERVED that!
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I’m glad we gave more people here. They found an awesome blog to speak their mind on! All thanks to Sunite! 😉
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I’m sorry but I disagree on the both of you Liltotto is stronger than Robert. Lil didn’t fight ichigo one on one like Candice did. Robert wasn’t fighting anyone and he was healthy yet he lost to RG Byakuya. That doesn’t make a lot of sense if you seen Lil get thrown into buildings by ichigo, pierced by bazz and still survived Byakuya while Robert did not. That is basically all that matters. She mocked them! I don’t see how this is even debatable. I am most certain that if Candice would have never fought ichigo she would have too survived byakuya. Candice has an overall elemental advantage than Robert/Nana but she was clearly wrecked by Ichigo and Bazz which ain’t no telling did something to her endurance. Hell even Meninas is stronger than all three of them. She mocked them too! I would say she’s stronger than bazz as well since him and Candy should be what and what because Lighting/Fire is ALMOST the same. Y’all should give the girls more credit. ??
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I think when it comes to endurance, Liltotto is better than Robert. I guess we have to see more or her to see if she is as strong as a senior Captain level Quincy.
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Just overall she’s better in my opinion. It was simply no point in kubo having both meninas and liltotto standing there while the others were on the ground. I respect y’all opinion but I won’t change my view on what I have read into. Its clear as day how kubo was having Robert hype up Meninas and later on have Meninas hype up Liltotto its Dog eat Dog or Big fish eats little fish and Bigger fish eats Big fish. I don’t really see Robert being that strong that’s just me. Sure he fought shunsui but he went volstandig immediately. Let it have been Bazz, Meninas, or Candice it would have been a problem for Shunsui. Sure he would have slashed them but they would have for sure do more damage than just a mere eye gauge. I respect your opinions as always though!
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I’m starting to think Liltotto is as strong as a senior Captain level opponent. And sure Meninas, Candice, and Bazz-B have more destructive Schrift, but I view Robert stronger than them. When he lost to Byakuya, He Got Right Back Up. Reminds of of when Stark hit Shunsui with his Cero, and he got back up as well. I think that he and Liltotto are evenly matched, she just has better endurance.
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I get that people like Aizen, but lets face it, looking at jst his feats u can tell that he is no where near Yhwach by far, & lets also face the actual fact that Aizen even back then got that far in his plans cause he planned everything for more than 100 hundred years & took advantage of the Gotei 13 at their most weakest form by the time(U could jst tell by the precautions they were taking during that Ryoka invasion), either way Aizen planned out every thing thats y he got as far as he did, he even had to show all the other Captains pretending that he is showing them his zanpaktou abilities(a kido type zanpaktou that uses water mist to confuse enemies), only that he was lying to them & instead he was performing a powerful hypnosis ritual on them using his zanpaktou(which most bleach enthusiast think that it myt perhaps be his bankai ability, but idk, still up for debate), but why did he have to do that to all the captains if he really is that strong!? Probably because he saw them as a threat, wel, atleast some of them to which he thought his zanpaktou abilities could rather make them powerless against him…but for me i think the base Aizen(without the Hogyoku) wasn’t as powerful as the senior Captains(Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku & Ukitake) or Ishiin Kurosaki, thou i would say that he was on spal with the likes Yoruichi & Kisuke, & as for the Evolved Aizen(with Hogyoku), the only one who i think has the power to truly take him on(& actually being able to kill him) is Ichibei, has for others, it will take a combined effort, but still i dont see them actually being able to kill him cause of his immortality..more like achieving what kisuke, Yoruichi, Ishiin & Ichigo were able to pull, but Ichibei, i actually see him being able to kill Aizen, even with the Hogyoku, given his abilities..but thats just me(as Nick likes to put it), i can understand Yhwach miraculously overcoming Ichibei only because he is the son of the Soul KING & all but Aizen, hell No! Ichibei is probably the most powerful shinigami & given his ability u can tell that he knows the power of every Shinigami out there..From where it stands now, i see only the Soul King & Yhwach being above him..
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Wow I like your posts Josephia. 🙂 I liked how you reminded us how Aizen really Is. While some disagree, I also believe Ichibei can defeat the new Hogoyku enhanced Aizen. Yamamoto and Unohana too. If they can defeat him, than for sure Yhwach can we other his Schrift The Almighty. I don’t believe Aizen can defeat Yhwach by himself. As narcissistic as he is, I don’t see him fighting along side Ichigo or the Royal Guard, which will result in him taking on Yhwach by himself and losing. Cause I personally don’t understand why some people literally worship Aizen or “Aizen-Sama”
I get it that he was Bleach’s first major villain, but I am a Yhwach fan now. Cause unlike Aizen, Yhwach is actually a god.
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Well now. I’m pretty sure the girls minus Giselle and Bazz wouldn’t have a problem dealing with Robert. I just don’t see him beating them ???. And the whole Aizen is stronger than Yhwach thing I don’t see it but Aizen is a troll so I can see Yhwach having a very long time to defeat him. I wouldn’t say he would struggle physically but I’m pretty sure he will get mindfucked. I can see it going both ways really but I wouldn’t put aizen up there just yet. Let us see what Aizen has in stored for us. Hell Yhwach still has volstandig and the fact that it does alter some folks abilities a little like as nodt. His ability was fear but he used thorns in base but when he went vol it changed into eyes so Yhwach might have some more abilities dealing with the Almighty. I mean think about it if this man can rob people of their powers/soul in base( it wasn’t stated that aswaulen was apart of his letter ability neither) so he probably can do something more hax in vol using his letter ability. I myself don’t think Aizen could beat him straight up. Aizen is hella cunning but I don’t see it!
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well With Yhwach, he has other techniques that relate to his Schrift. Holy Selection, Saint Alter, power restoration, and power transtering are all apart of his The Almighty. He can take any power he chooses. Man his Vollstandig is going to be so powerful its crazy.
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Hold Up! Where the hell is Mashiro?!? Is she dead or something ?. And don’t be like oh she’s probably doing something or she’s coming because someone would have said something. It’s like she must have been sacrificed for hisagi’s alleged bankai. I’m just confused at this moment or maybe she’s freeing Tier?? Lol.
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I think she is with Kensei and Rose. I think these three will show up later. I doubt she was sacrificed for Shuuhei. He can’t even fight a single Sternritter by himself, he got controlled by Pepe.
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Why exactly would she be with kensei and rose? She wasn’t no where around them even when they fought masc…it’s just weirs as to why she would be with them and not shinji and mono or to be honest with insane to begin with. Doesn’t make sense as to why she would hang around zombies especially kensei and not feel some type of way towards mayuri?
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I believe Mayuri was able to revive Kensei, Rojuro, and Rangiku from The Zombie. I believe Mashiro is with them while they recover. I originally thought Mayuri put Kensei and Rojuro in those containers, but it turns out that was a Reiatsu amplifier.
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I prefer Aizen. I cant wait to see him back in action. Something tells me he wont be killed off like some are saying. IMO dude is a genius, him sitting in that room for those years with literally nothing to do but sit around and think makes me think he will be big trouble once he is finally back in action.
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I wasn’t that surprise that Aizen is going to return to the main story and I’m not that expecting for his battles with Wandenreich… to be honest, I was really bored with the last battle between Ichigo and Aizen, just keep on stressing on their destructive power.
Unless Aizen able to retrieve his zanpakutou and show us his bankai, otherwise the battle will be like boom bang, blasting here and there, it will be another boring fight for me. I will feel more anticipating for Shunsui and Joshiro’s bankai rather than Aizen (fused with Hōgyoku).
And I have another doubt, if Shunsui really plan to ask Aizen to battle for them, why was it he was only permitted to use 3 keys? I don’t think Aizen can beat Juha Bach without releasing his full potential.
Aizen is an interesting character… As Yamamoto said before, he never met with anyone (or Shinigami?) that is stronger than him, not even Aizen. I think Yamamoto is indeed stronger than Aizen, and that’s why Aizen created Wonderweiss just to seal off Yamamoto’s Ryujin Jakka. But the question is, why is it Aizen that strong? He’s not a hybrid like Ichigo (Quincy + Shinigami), and he’s not one of the oldest captain generation from Shunsui, Joshiro, and Unohana, when and how did he attain his superior power?
And he seems to know a lot about the soul king, could that be the reason behind why Shunsui thinks he need to find him?
I’m guessing, Kubo may spend some time on Aizen’s background…
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Couldn’t agree more. I think Aizen will die by Yhwach, and Kubo will show us his last before he dies. That’s just what I think will happen
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same with me…i more anticipating on how really strong Kyoraku and Ukitake is…
i wondering it too about how come Aizen become so powerful just like you mentioned…
maybe there are connection with Matsumoto…
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I dont believe people under estimate Aizen‘s power like that, I mean if you all watched the same Winter war arc as me, you realise that Aizen‘s zanpaktou ability could work the same way as the Almighty‘s All seeing eyes.He made 3 captains and the visored attack Hinamori without them realising it, he then finished all of them in matter of minutes and even then he was not using the Hogyoku.The same hogyoku created Wonderwise who was able to seal of the most powerful zanpaktou in existence.In his final upgrade,Aizen‘s attack was able to overpower Ichigo‘s blut vene and burn his arm which even Ywach‘s sword was unable to do.I dont think Ichibei could hold a candle to Aizen.Ywach also recognises this power thats why he went to recruit him personally and thats why he could not kill him like he tried to do to Ichigo when he turned down his offer.Besides if Ywach is indeed almighty, why didnt he see Aizens ultimate release?Also the last time I checked,the hogyoku had rejected Aizen as its master yet currently he is overpowering the seal placed on him and with a genius level intellect, id say Ywach has met his match.Aizen would finally be able to replace the Soul King.
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So your comparing Aizen’s greatest form to when Yhwach fought Ichigo And He Wasn’t Even At Full power? First of all, his illusions are powerful, but they do have weakest. Yhwach’s Schrift The Almighty can see the future and allows Yhwach to counter all abilities that he comes across and they are rendered useless. Comparing that to Aizen is like comparing day and night. They are not completely different levels of power.
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And FYI, Aizen was using the Hogoyku to make himself stronger when he defeated Harribel, 4 injured Captains and 4 injured Visord. He reached his limits as a Shinigami when fighting Isshin, and the Hogoyku gave him an upgrade. The only time he was shown using his own strength was when he defeated Sajin, Renji, and Ichigo.
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is not that we underestimate on Aizen…we just wondering how he get so strong…
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According to Ichigo, he believes Aizen was so strong and had such unique abilities that he was always alone and that’s why he is the way he is. I guess he felt sorry for him when he defeated him.
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shinobi, no one is underestimating Aizen, im just pointing out for what he truly is, Yeah! he put quite a show at fake karakura town, even i was mesmerized then by his shear display, but lets face the obvious fact that he failed in his plans, he didn’t even reach the Royal Guard, yet people compare him with the likes Yhwach SMH! Yamamoto could basically defeat base Aizen with just his shikai, Aizen didn’t even want to engage Yamamoto fearing Ryu jin jakka destructive power would hinder his evolvement, in other words, he feared he would been killed before he got the chance to evolve(reaching his limits), even thou still at one point, Yama was bare handed & called out on Aizen to face him with his zanpaktou already sealed by wonderweiss, he still had to relie on wonderweiss to atleast weaken him..he thout he could trick the oldman with Kyoka Suigetsu when he was caught by the hand but the old man Yama could tell the difference between his illusion & actual self by reiatsu…y do people miss all this!? the only reason i dont look down much on Aizen is bcoz he is one with the Hogyoku which gives him immortality,regeneration & evolving capability, which also the Hogyoku has proven to give him when it desire..As for Aizen being the way he is(“strong” as “rahmaru” puts it), i think it has got to do with the actual fact that he wanted to be strong & was working on it inorder to be the strongest, only to find out that they are limits to how strong one can become(shinigami that is) & because of that, he worked on other ways to make himself stronger by experimenting with hollows & later cameup with the Hogyoku..but even before then you could tell that both he & Gin where still working on making themselves even stronger in hiding, what motivated him to be/become the way he is, dat i truly have no clue, but like some of u pointed out in here, we could really use a flashback on Aizen’s past & y he was the way he is, i hope Kubo can grant us that, as Aizen heroically dies in the end coz i see it somehow heading to that..
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Wow Josephia it’s like we are connected! That’s so what u bek
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That’s so what I believe! Unohana also could tell the difference between Aizen’s Reiatsu and his Shikai’s Reiatsu. She did that when he faked his death. Ya As strong as he was a Shinigami, , he wanted to be stronger. Of course Yamamoto, Unohana, Zaraki and Royal Guard are stronger than him. I see him dying by Yhwach’s Hand.
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Actually Yama never said he can distinguish Kyoka Suigetsu’s Shikai from the real stuff, he only said he knows that’s not illusion because Aizen’s sword stabbed him, and he felt Aizen’s reiatsu within his body, that’s all. If an Aizen illusion was simply standing in front of Yama there’s no way to be sure Yama could tell the difference because that was never stated. And it really doesn’t matter how Yama got defeated, all it matters that he got rekt, and Aizen was the one who rekt him. Also, Yama would’ve never been able to kill Aizen because of Kyoka Suigetsu, however I don’t think Aizen would’ve killed him either if he fought the old dude with his zanpakuto’s abilities untouched, that’s why he wanted to avoid Ryujin Jakka’s power, not because he knew he was going to get killed, but because ke knew he couldn’t kill him (and Yama was literally the only character he intended to kill, besides Gin when the time came and the Soul King). Aizen’s main strength is his brain, and his brain, I’m pretty sure is bigger than any other character’s brain 🙂
I also feel that Aizen is going to die or something, helping Ichigo and company. Imo he was never truly evil, he only did what he did “for the greater good”, whatever that is since the Soul King puzzle is still missing. Also, I’m thinking Aizen sort of “trained” Ichigo untill their final battle, he could’ve killed Ichigo anytime during the manga, yet he did not, stuff is missing, but I’m sure we’ll get a badass closure of the manga and a reasoning for everything that happened. Wonder what’s Aizen bankai, since his shikai was like it was… OP, nerf!
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That’s interesting. Kubo actually stated that opponents who are stronger than Aizen can tell the difference between Aizen’s Reiatsu and his Shikai’s Reiatsu. Yamamoto is stronger than him. And if he did fight Yamamoto had one he would have definitely been killed. Unohana figured out his clone body and his real body. Sure she didn’t know she was being hypnotize, but she knew the difference. I also see Aizen dying, but with his narcissistic and arrogant attitude, I’m not so sure he will team up with Ichigo against Yhwach. I see him fighting Yhwach alone and being killed for his own arrogance.
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Ywach also had to steal Yamamoto‘s bankai inorder to face him so I dont see how that makes him stronger than Aizen.Besides the hogyoku made him merge with his zanpaktou which is something only him and Ichigo have ever done making them stronger than Yama-ji. Besides if Aizen had finished off Ichigo ealier he would have probably killed the soul king.
Besides some obvious stuff like Aizen has more reatsu now than he did before,he is immortal and has powered up as seen when one seal gave him back ability to walk and speak, what do you think he will be capable off when fully unsealed. He still has the best regeneration ability than anyone in the series so tell me how Ywach is going to cut him in half and stealing hogyoku from him is definately out of the question.
Also Ywach‘s All seeing eyes aren‘t flawless as they cant see everything,im pretty sure he doesnt know everything or why would he try to recruit Aizen if he knew he would just turn him down,also we all know either Aizen or Ichigo is going to defeat him,why then didn‘t he finish them off before he invaded the SK palace?
Aizen‘s complete hypnosis tricks your eyes and Ywach‘s power relies on his eyes anyone seeing the irony here? All Aizen has to do is cast his complete hypnosis and let Ywach think they are fighting till he has used all his power and learn how his power works.If Ywach tries to see the future won‘t he still be under complete hypnosis hence just see what Aizen wants him to see.
Also the royal gaurd don‘t have as much reatsu as Aizen,remember when Ichigo‘s swords were being reforged,it was said no sword has ever produced that much steam hence ichigo‘s current reatsu even beats that of Ichibei, and Aizen went toe to toe with him which shows the royal gaurd are a bunch of weaklings hence should not even be compared to Aizen who is a god in his own right.
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Okay first of all, the only way a Quincy can steal a Shinigami’s is if they are as strong or stronger than the Shinigami. As Nodt, BG9, Bambietta, Cang Du, and Driscoll are all as strong of not stronger than the Shinigami they stole from. Yhwach is clearly at Yamamoto’s level and most likely stronger. While Aizen was never at that level. And The Almighty is not about his sight, he sees the future in his head, and his Schrift comes up with a way to negate any abilities he comes across. Also, I don’t believe Aizen is immortal anymore. If that’s true, Yhwach can just use Saint Altar to steal it. So Yhwach is stronger, and that’s my opinion on this subject. And if Yhwach knew all five Royal Guard would defeat him, than its pretty obvious they could defeat Aizen with the Hogoyku. They didn’t even consider him a threat to bother come down. But with Yhwach They Did. That’s Kubo telling us Yhwach is better than Aizen in my opinion.
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well i guess ywach is a personification of God it sell.. The Father.
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well for me ywach its more like Yahweh.. or God it self…
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as u can see.. the almighty mean.. he is superior then everything…its just like Yahweh itself who know about everything.. who can see about everything.. and there is nothing stand before him is has a power… i think ywach.. is a caracter that the strongest of all bleach … such as he is the God himself
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That’s where Kubo Gabe his name. Yhwach is based off of the Hebrew word Yahweh. So yup it makes sense that his powers are based off of that. He is, in my opinion, the most strongest villain I have seen in an anime expect Dragon Ball Z.
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Thats also true Nick, not only did she notice that smething was off with aizen’s fake corpse, she also was quick to realise straight away when Aizen revealed to her about his true zanpaktou abilities, that even back then that display of aizen showing his zanpaktou ability as a water type zanpaktou that uses mist to confuse enemies was actually an hypnosis ritual, i bet she could actual tell that something was off with that since then, only that she had no reason to doubt aizen then, & the way she identified/noticed that so quickly, its has if she sort of came across such sort of an ability back in her good old days when she was till a bloodrusty Kenpachi…She also was quick to realise that Kaname Tousen was in it with Aizen since Aizen’s zanpaktou abilities couldnt work on him( i guess thats y Aizen needed him by his side(Kaname) since his zanpaktou abilities couldnt work on him, & for no other reason, therefore eliminating him as a threat)
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Yup that’s what I’m saying Josephia! 😉 If Unohana was weaker than Aizen, she wouldn’t have been able to figure out what she did. I’m sure she did fight something like that back than. After all, the only other illusion type Zanpakuto Is Shinji’s Sakanade, and Kouga’s Muramasa. True Aizen took in Kaname because he was blind, that’s why when he turned good after he lost to Sajin and Hisagi, he killed him by causing hid Hollowfication to kill him.
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So Toshiro, Sajin & Kira are still alive i see? How did Kira even survive? he was almost torn in half last i checked….
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Sajin is technically alive. He is a wolf after he defeated Bambietta. But Kubo killed him off as a character by turning him into a wolf. So he can no longer be a Shinigami or the 7th Division Captain. Kira was killed by Bazz-B when he fired his fire Heilig Pfeil. He hasn’t been seen sense and it’s been like a week sense the first invasion happened. Toshiro was killed by Giselle and she turned him into a Zombie on the first day of the second invasion. I don’t believe Mayuri was able to cure him of The Zombie because he was a zombie for over a day, while Rangiku, Kensei, and Rojuro were zombies for a couple of hours. So I think Mayuri saved those three. Plus when zombie Toshiro came to fight Mayuri, Giselle changed his uniform to a Wandenreich one. I think that was Kubo showing us as the reader that Toshiro is dead
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WHAT IF… Aizen this whole time was playing with Ichigo when he was using his Final Getsuga Tenshou?
Maybe he didn’t actually get sealed, and this whole thing is played by Aizen with his Kyoya Suigetsu’s illusion ability. Holy crap nerd-gasm..
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